Should adf be done on the residual against time or the residual from scatter plot?

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1. Change of y (clarodina@lycos.com)
2. Re: Change of y (Summers, Peter)
3. Re: Change of y (Claudio Shikida (??????????))
4. Re: Change of y (Sven Schreiber)
5. R:VAR parameters (alexkakashi@libero.it)


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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:22:09 +0000
From: "Summers, Peter" <psummers@highpoint.edu>
Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] Change of y
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Clarodina,

L is the lag operator: Ly(t) = y(t-1). So (1-L)y = y(t) ? Ly(t) = y(t) ? y(t-1). The left-hand side of the adf regression is then just the first difference of y(t).

HTH,

PS

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The model for adf is (1-L)y = b0 + (a-1)*y(-1) + e

But isn't adf is using reg of change of y to lag of y?

The (1-L)y is not refering to change of y

Clicking the use first difference generate the same (1-L)y rather using change of y

What does L represent?

Clarodina
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:22:06 -0200
From: Claudio Shikida (??????????) <cdshikida@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] Change of y
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You should look for "L operator".

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:17 PM, clarodina@lycos.com <clarodina@lycos.com>wrote:

> The model for adf is (1-L)y = b0 + (a-1)*y(-1) + e
>
> But isn't adf is using reg of change of y to lag of y?
>
> The (1-L)y is not refering to change of y
>
> Clicking the use first difference generate the same (1-L)y rather using
> change of y
>
> What does L represent?
>
> Clarodina
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:23:13 +0100
From: Sven Schreiber <svetosch@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] Change of y
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On 12/14/2011 07:17 PM, clarodina@lycos.com wrote:
> The model for adf is (1-L)y = b0 + (a-1)*y(-1) + e

When you start a new topic/thread, I think it's good practice to start
with "hello", or "hi", or something like that...

>
> But isn't adf is using reg of change of y to lag of y?

yes

>
> The (1-L)y is not refering to change of y

yes it is

>
> Clicking the use first difference generate the same (1-L)y rather using
> change of y
>
> What does L represent?

The lag operator

-sven


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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:03:22 +0100 (CET)
From: "alexkakashi@libero.it" <alexkakashi@libero.it>
Subject: [Gretl-users] R:VAR parameters
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Thanks for your answer. In my equations the restrictions are non-linear. For
example, can I use the following restriction

restrict varsys
> b[1,2]*b[2,2] = 0
>end restrict

Best regards.

Alessandro


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>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:38:06 +0100
>From: Sven Schreiber <svetosch@gmx.net>
>Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] Different ols
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>You forgot the constant.
>-sven
>
>On 12/14/2011 08:25 AM, clarodina@lycos.com wrote:
>> Allin Cottrell,
>>
>> The scatterplot with v1 on y axis and v2 on x axis gives y=17.9+0.0453x
>>
>> Using ols v1 v2 OR ols v2 v1 gives 0.181744 and 5.49601 coefficient
>> which is different
>> the scatterplot
>>
>> And the graph for selecting v1 against v2 fiitted vs obs is different
>> from the graph from the scatterplot
>>
>> Wanted to save the residual against v2 from the scatterplot and have the
>> value on the gretl
>> How to do using GUI rather the command?
>>
>> Clarodina
>>
>>
>> ? m6 <- ols v1 v2
>>
>> m6: OLS, using observations 1950-1954 (T = 5)
>> Dependent variable: v1
>>
>> coefficient std. error t-ratio p-value
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> v2 0.181744 0.00306098 59.37 4.82e-07 ***
>>
>> Mean dependent var 23.84800 S.D. dependent var 0.313321
>> Sum squared resid 3.223300 S.E. of regression 0.897678
>> R-squared 0.998867 Adjusted R-squared 0.998867
>> F(1, 4) 3525.337 P-value(F) 4.82e-07
>> Log-likelihood -5.997112 Akaike criterion 13.99422
>> Schwarz criterion 13.60366 Hannan-Quinn 12.94599
>> rho 0.620803 Durbin-Watson 0.419277
>>
>> ? m6 <- ols v2 v1
>>
>> m6: OLS, using observations 1950-1954 (T = 5)
>> Dependent variable: v2
>>
>> coefficient std. error t-ratio p-value
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> v1 5.49601 0.0925651 59.37 4.82e-07 ***
>>
>> Mean dependent var 131.0220 S.D. dependent var 6.532206
>> Sum squared resid 97.47384 S.E. of regression 4.936442
>> R-squared 0.998867 Adjusted R-squared 0.998867
>> F(1, 4) 3525.337 P-value(F) 4.82e-07
>> Log-likelihood -14.52006 Akaike criterion 31.04012
>> Schwarz criterion 30.64955 Hannan-Quinn 29.99189
>> rho 0.635889 Durbin-Watson 0.420088
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>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:24:31 +0100 (CET)
>From: "alexkakashi@libero.it" <alexkakashi@libero.it>
>Subject: [Gretl-users] VAR parameters
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>Hi,
>I have the following problem. I should estimate a VAR model in which some
>parameters are constrained. How can I restrict some coefficients equal to 0
in
>gretl?
>
>Best regards
>
>Alessandro
>
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>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:28:25 +0100
>From: Sven Schreiber <svetosch@gmx.net>
>Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] VAR parameters
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>On 12/14/2011 11:24 AM, alexkakashi@libero.it wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have the following problem. I should estimate a VAR model in which some
>> parameters are constrained. How can I restrict some coefficients equal to 0
in
>> gretl?
>>
>
>set up a SUR system:
>
>system method=sur
> equation ...
> equation ...
> equation ...
> ....
>end system
>
>The equation specifying syntax is like for a normal equation.
>
>hth,
>sven
>
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>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:35:23 +0000
>From: Annaert Jan <jan.annaert@ua.ac.be>
>Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] Gretl-users Digest, Vol 59, Issue 16
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>Don't forget to add the constant in the regression!
>
>Jan
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>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:28:55 -0500 (EST)
>From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] VAR parameters
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>On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Sven Schreiber wrote:
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>> On 12/14/2011 11:24 AM, alexkakashi@libero.it wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I have the following problem. I should estimate a VAR model in which some
>>> parameters are constrained. How can I restrict some coefficients equal to
0 in
>>> gretl?
>>
>> set up a SUR system:
>>
>> system method=sur
>> equation ...
>> equation ...
>> equation ...
>> ....
>> end system
>>
>> The equation specifying syntax is like for a normal equation.
>
>We should probably enable the "restrict" command for VARs at
>some point, but as Sven says you can do this as an SUR system.
>Here's a trivial example:
>
><hansl>
>open data9-7
>
># set up the common regressors
>list X = const INCOME(-1 to -4) PRIME(-1 to -4)
>varsys <- system
> equation INCOME X
> equation PRIME X
>end system
>
>restrict varsys
> b[1,2] - b[2,2] = 0
>end restrict
>
>estimate varsys method=SUR
></hansl>
>
>Allin Cottrell
>
>
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>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:37:44 -0500 (EST)
>From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] Different ols
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>On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, clarodina@lycos.com wrote:
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>But in relation to "Wanted to save the residual against v2
>from the scatterplot and have the value on the gretl How to do
>using GUI rather the command?":
>
>Use the Save menu in the model window.
>
>--
>Allin Cottrell
>Department of Economics
>Wake Forest University, NC
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