What version at what system do you use?
? armax(4, 0, BNS, null, 1, 1, 0, 1, 0)
===============================================
 Information Criteria of ARMAX(p,q) for BNS
-----------------------------------------------
 p, q          AIC           BIC           HQC
-----------------------------------------------
 0, 0    -501.3442*    -498.7390*    -500.2898*
 1, 0    -497.8805     -490.0650     -494.7174 
 2, 0    -495.9302     -485.5096     -491.7128 
 3, 0    -494.1461     -481.1202     -488.8743 
 4, 0    -492.4112     -476.7802     -486.0851 
===============================================
* indicates best models


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Дата: 26 квітня 2014, 17:53:48


Ah, I have already sent the exact subsample, in a follow-up email. Did it not go through the list? I don't think I forgot to attach it.

Perhaps  the zeroes in the sample cause the crash when they occur in a specific location (first, second, next-to-last or last, perhaps?)

And thanks for the additional info about Tobit-style non-linear models.

TMN


On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 10:37 PM, <oleg_komashko@ukr.net> wrote:
If you are interested in the reason for crushing armax I should have
exact subsample causing crush.
If you are interested in correct modelling of this data you should
look for some nonlinear model for censored data,
something Tobit-style: discrete zeros have non-zero
probability in your sample

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Дата: 26 квітня 2014, 15:55:09


This one likes to crash (attached as text file). I wonder, is  armax_auto  aware of the sample range I selected via GUI? Not that it matters to me, but it may be important.

TMN


On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:15 PM, <oleg_komashko@ukr.net> wrote:

Can you supply the data set? As attachment, may be.

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Дата: 26 квітня 2014, 13:19:16

Thanks to all for the replies. Will try to find TRAMO. meanwhile, the
armax-auto option occasionally generates this error:

? armax(4, 4, BOTH, null, 1, 1, 0, 1, 0)
BFGS: initial value of objective function is not finite
*** error in function armax, line 82
> loop q = 0..maxq

On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Riccardo (Jack) Lucchetti
<r.lucchetti@univpm.it> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Apr 2014, oleg_komashko@ukr.net wrote:
>
>> You can use armax_auto (see time series menu in Gretl GUI). The function
>> has a drawback: the cycle crushes on encountering a unit root in MA part of
>> the model Also you can use auto.arima{forecast} in R My experience tells it
>> would be better to determine the order of integration (use unit root tests)
>> beforehand and use, say "d=1" in auto.arima (type ?auto.arima in R console)
>
>
> That's a function package, you may need to install it first: go to
> Files>Function Files>On server.
>
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