7:29 a.m.
Is this something obvious, or do I need to append data & resend to list?
? TotContr_tr = tramolin(TotalContrastive)
New data not conformable for appending
New data not conformable for appending
7:57 a.m.
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Allin Cottrell wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Tim Nall wrote:
> Is this something obvious, or do I need to append data & resend to list?
>
> ? TotContr_tr = tramolin(TotalContrastive)
> New data not conformable for appending
I think we need to see the data. A test of the same sort works OK here.
To be more explicit, here's an example what works fine for me:
<hansl>
include tramolin.gfn
open data9-9
series price_c = tramolin(price)
</hansl>
Allin Cottrell
8:37 a.m.
Series has zeroes from time to time, including four in a row in the
last four observations. I restricted the data to a sample with far
fewer zeroes, and did not receive the same error. TMN
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu> wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Tim Nall wrote:
> Is this something obvious, or do I need to append data & resend to list?
>
> ? TotContr_tr = tramolin(TotalContrastive)
> New data not conformable for appending
I think we need to see the data. A test of the same sort works OK here.
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9:20 a.m.
First, I was wrong. Changing the sample range doesn't help. Perhaps I
clicked the wrong var the second time.
Second, I use a file editor to look at the 6 files in
\Application Data\gretl\tramo\graph\series
...they have nobs (number observations) equal to 190; should be 196.
The reason the program cannot append the sername.txt file to my csv
file is that the column lengths are not the same.
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Tim Nall <tnall.ling(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Series has zeroes from time to time, including four in a row in the
last four observations. I restricted the data to a sample with far
fewer zeroes, and did not receive the same error. TMN
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 1 May 2014, Tim Nall wrote:
>
>> Is this something obvious, or do I need to append data & resend to list?
>>
>> ? TotContr_tr = tramolin(TotalContrastive)
>> New data not conformable for appending
>
> I think we need to see the data. A test of the same sort works OK here.
>
> Allin Cottrell
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National Quemoy University
Kinmen, Taiwan
9:29 a.m.
On 02/05/14 11:20, Tim Nall wrote:
First, I was wrong. Changing the sample range doesn't help.
Perhaps I
clicked the wrong var the second time.
Second, I use a file editor to look at the 6 files in
\Application Data\gretl\tramo\graph\series
...they have nobs (number observations) equal to 190; should be 196.
The reason the program cannot append the sername.txt file to my csv
file is that the column lengths are not the same.
Ok. Tim, please download the new
version of tramolin and look if it
solves this.
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10:01 a.m.
Sorry, no, it doesn't. In the file upload box, tramolin did display as "Not
up to date" before I downloaded it, so it seems I got the new copy. This
one is 1.6 ... I tried with a file that had zeroes, and with another file
that had empty cells .. both crashed.. if it helps, it seems that xint.t is
not overwritten at any point, but other files are.
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza <
ignacio.diaz-emparanza(a)ehu.es> wrote:
On 02/05/14 11:20, Tim Nall wrote:
First, I was wrong. Changing the sample range doesn't help. Perhaps I
clicked the wrong var the second time.
Second, I use a file editor to look at the 6 files in
\Application Data\gretl\tramo\graph\series
...they have nobs (number observations) equal to 190; should be 196.
The reason the program cannot append the sername.txt file to my csv
file is that the column lengths are not the same.
Ok. Tim, please download the new version of tramolin and look if it
solves this.
--
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Zuzendaria/Director
ignacio.diaz-emparanza(a)ehu.es <ignacio.diaz.emparanza(a)ehu.es>
94 6013732
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DE ECONOMÍA APLICADA III (ECONOMETRÍA Y ESTADÍSTICA) UPV/EHU*
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10:13 a.m.
More unfortunate news. I manually deleted the last 5 rows off the entire
data file (can live without them), thinking that would solve my problem,
and you could fix tramolin in your spare time. No, sorry, even with the
last rows populated now, it still crashes, though nobser has changed to 186
in most files, and nobser in the residuals files went *up* -- and xint.t
(interpolated) still did not change. TMN
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Tim Nall <tnall.ling(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry, no, it doesn't. In the file upload box, tramolin did
display as
"Not up to date" before I downloaded it, so it seems I got the new copy.
This one is 1.6 ... I tried with a file that had zeroes, and with another
file that had empty cells .. both crashed.. if it helps, it seems that
xint.t is not overwritten at any point, but other files are.
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza <
ignacio.diaz-emparanza(a)ehu.es> wrote:
> On 02/05/14 11:20, Tim Nall wrote:
>
> First, I was wrong. Changing the sample range doesn't help. Perhaps I
> clicked the wrong var the second time.
>
> Second, I use a file editor to look at the 6 files in
> \Application Data\gretl\tramo\graph\series
>
> ...they have nobs (number observations) equal to 190; should be 196.
> The reason the program cannot append the sername.txt file to my csv
> file is that the column lengths are not the same.
>
> Ok. Tim, please download the new version of tramolin and look if it
> solves this.
>
> --
> *Ignacio Díaz-Emparanza*
> Zuzendaria/Director
> ignacio.diaz-emparanza(a)ehu.es <ignacio.diaz.emparanza(a)ehu.es>
> 94 6013732
> *EKONOMIA APLIKATUA III SAILA (EKONOMETRIA ETA ESTATISTIKA)/ DEPARTAMENTO
> DE ECONOMÍA APLICADA III (ECONOMETRÍA Y ESTADÍSTICA) UPV/EHU*
> Avda. Lehendakari Aguirre, 83 | 48015 BILBAO
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Kinmen, Taiwan
10:14 a.m.
On 02/05/14 12:01, Tim Nall wrote:
Sorry, no, it doesn't. In the file upload box, tramolin did
display as
"Not up to date" before I downloaded it, so it seems I got the new
copy. This one is 1.6 ... I tried with a file that had zeroes, and
with another file that had empty cells .. both crashed.. if it helps,
it seems that xint.t is not overwritten at any point, but other files are.
Could you send me your series? In private email, if you prefer.
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ignacio.diaz-emparanza(a)ehu.es <mailto:ignacio.diaz.emparanza@ehu.es>
94 6013732
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9:27 a.m.
On 01/05/14 10:37, Tim Nall wrote:
Series has zeroes from time to time, including four in a row in the
last four observations. I restricted the data to a sample with far
fewer zeroes, and did not receive the same error. TMN
Tramolin uses 'append' to retrieve the "linear series" (adjusted
for
outliers and with interpolations for missing observations). 'append'
tries to add new variables to the current gretl dataset and needs that
the new variables have the same number of observations as the dataset.
If not, it gives an error.
In principle zeroes should not be a problem, but I see that if the
zeroes are at the end of the series Tramo internally discard them and
produces the linear series for the reduced sample. I have just changed
the Tramolin code to consider this last zeroes as NA and avoid the
error. I commited this change to the server.
Tramolin is a rather old function which I think was coded before we had
the interface to tramo in gretl. I thought this was obsolete, but
certainly I also have used it recently. I think that if the GUI
interface to Tramo had a way to save the "linear" series we could retire
Tramolin.
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