9:18 p.m.
Responding to comments made by Sven a while ago, I'm thinking of
changing the default installation directories for gretl 1.6.0 on
Windows. The current default of "c:\userdata\gretl" makes sense
at Wake Forest University but probably seems odd to most people.
For the program itself, "c:\Program Files" (or equivalent) seems
the obvious choice. But what about the "user" directory? Where
should that go? Perhaps, in the same tree that Word and Excel
use for saving user files by default, but what is that? (Sorry,
I boot Windows very seldom and I don't know these things.)
[In case anyone suggests using the "HOME" environment variable,
let me pre-emptively state that that is not a Windows-ish thing,
and it's not possible to access it using the Inno Setup
installer with any degree of ease.]
Allin Cottrell
9:30 p.m.
C:\Documents and Settings\Talha\Application Data
In Windows XP, most applications craete a subfolder under this
directory however I don't know how to obtain the username variable (in
the above case "Talha" is the account name). During install, some
programs also ask the question "Install for all users or this user
only?" or something like that.
On 8/20/06, Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu> wrote:
Responding to comments made by Sven a while ago, I'm thinking of
changing the default installation directories for gretl 1.6.0 on
Windows. The current default of "c:\userdata\gretl" makes sense
at Wake Forest University but probably seems odd to most people.
For the program itself, "c:\Program Files" (or equivalent) seems
the obvious choice. But what about the "user" directory? Where
should that go? Perhaps, in the same tree that Word and Excel
use for saving user files by default, but what is that? (Sorry,
I boot Windows very seldom and I don't know these things.)
[In case anyone suggests using the "HOME" environment variable,
let me pre-emptively state that that is not a Windows-ish thing,
and it's not possible to access it using the Inno Setup
installer with any degree of ease.]
Allin Cottrell
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10:52 p.m.
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users - i'm current using 2000 NT
Greetings, Raquel
2006/8/20, Talha Yalta <talhayalta(a)gmail.com>:
C:\Documents and Settings\Talha\Application Data
In Windows XP, most applications craete a subfolder under this
directory however I don't know how to obtain the username variable (in
the above case "Talha" is the account name). During install, some
programs also ask the question "Install for all users or this user
only?" or something like that.
On 8/20/06, Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu> wrote:
> Responding to comments made by Sven a while ago, I'm thinking of
> changing the default installation directories for gretl 1.6.0 on
> Windows. The current default of "c:\userdata\gretl" makes sense
> at Wake Forest University but probably seems odd to most people.
>
> For the program itself, "c:\Program Files" (or equivalent) seems
> the obvious choice. But what about the "user" directory? Where
> should that go? Perhaps, in the same tree that Word and Excel
> use for saving user files by default, but what is that? (Sorry,
> I boot Windows very seldom and I don't know these things.)
>
> [In case anyone suggests using the "HOME" environment variable,
> let me pre-emptively state that that is not a Windows-ish thing,
> and it's not possible to access it using the Inno Setup
> installer with any degree of ease.]
>
> Allin Cottrell
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11:06 p.m.
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, Talha Yalta wrote:
C:\Documents and Settings\Talha\Application Data
In Windows XP, most applications craete a subfolder under this
directory however I don't know how to obtain the username
variable...
Thanks, that is helpful. I think I can figure out how to find
the relevant directory, using Inno Setup, from that information.
Hopefully, it corresponds to {userappdata}.
Allin Cottrell
1:44 a.m.
I have found that GRETL's current installation allows
me to bypass calling the University IT when I need
to install it on a campus PC. On my home computer
where there isn't vast quantities of IT password
protection I tell the installation program to install it
to C:\Program Files\gretl without a problem.
So I worry that if the installation program is made
too "Windows" it will suffer installation delays (3 weeks
last time for me) when I needed IT to install GRETL in
a lab classroom. My vote would be for minimal
installation change.
Peter
1:56 a.m.
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, Peter Davidoff wrote:
I have found that GRETL's current installation allows
me to bypass calling the University IT when I need
to install it on a campus PC. On my home computer
where there isn't vast quantities of IT password
protection I tell the installation program to install it
to C:\Program Files\gretl without a problem.
So I worry that if the installation program is made
too "Windows" it will suffer installation delays (3 weeks
last time for me) when I needed IT to install GRETL in
a lab classroom. My vote would be for minimal
installation change.
Thanks for that info! It did occur to me to wonder whether
using a more "standard" set of installation directories under
Windows might create some permissions problems. Any other
thoughts on this?
Allin Cottrell
8:49 a.m.
Allin Cottrell schrieb:
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, Peter Davidoff wrote:
> I have found that GRETL's current installation allows
> me to bypass calling the University IT when I need
> to install it on a campus PC. On my home computer
> where there isn't vast quantities of IT password
> protection I tell the installation program to install it
> to C:\Program Files\gretl without a problem.
>
> So I worry that if the installation program is made
> too "Windows" it will suffer installation delays (3 weeks
> last time for me) when I needed IT to install GRETL in
> a lab classroom. My vote would be for minimal
> installation change.
Thanks for that info! It did occur to me to wonder whether using a more
"standard" set of installation directories under Windows might create
some permissions problems. Any other thoughts on this?
We are only talking about changing *defaults*, not changing
possibilities, right?
When I install a new gretl (snapshot) version (on windows), I always
change the default "userdata" path to "programme" (name of program
files
in German windows). Peter could always apply his needed changes as well.
With respect to permissions, installing to "program files" (or localized
equiv.) could require admin privileges, depending on the settings of the
user account. In that sense, there is no difference to the current
"userdata" default. If by changing installation defaults you also want
to make non-admin installs easier, you would have to set the install
directory to something like the "documents and settings\username"
directory (I believe).
hth,
sven
11:56 a.m.
New subject: Export data function - JMulTi
Thank you for the export data to JMulTi option !
It's nice. And what about the import option? Will you include it too?
And just a little correction: JMulti should be written with the capital "T"
i.e. JMulTi.
Regarding PcGive data:
"That means that at present only annual, quarterly and monthly
data are supported. If anyone knows how, e.g. daily data are
handled in these files, please let me know."
In GiveWin 2 (which is old version) there is a possibility to specify your
own data frequency. Althrough annual, quarterly and monthly there is "other
data frequency" option. I think that in new GiveWin i.e. OxMetrics 4 there
is an option which handles daily data. This must be checked.
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12:36 p.m.
New subject: Export data function - JMulTi
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, john w wrote:
Thank you for the export data to JMulTi option !
It's nice.
Glad you like it.
And what about the import option? Will you include it too?
Is there much point in that? I wouldn't have thought there was
much primary data available in JMulTi format.
And just a little correction: JMulti should be written with
the capital "T" i.e. JMulTi.
OK, thanks.
Regarding PcGive data:
"That means that at present only annual, quarterly and monthly
data are supported. If anyone knows how, e.g. daily data are
handled in these files, please let me know."
In GiveWin 2 (which is old version) there is a possibility to
specify your own data frequency. Althrough annual, quarterly
and monthly there is "other data frequency" option. I think
that in new GiveWin i.e. OxMetrics 4 there is an option which
handles daily data. This must be checked.
After some more searching on the web I discovered some code for
reading in7/bn7 files, available from Doornik. But so far as I
can tell it contains no indication of how daily data are
handled.
Allin.
1:02 p.m.
New subject: Export data function - JMulTi
Regarding:
>And what about the import option? Will you include it too?
Is there much point in that? I wouldn't have thought there was much
primary data available in JMulTi format.
It is for me....:))
Maybe there isn't so much data but I use frequently both, gretl and
JMulTi...so it will be a great help.
After some more searching on the web I discovered some code for
reading
in7/bn7 files, available from Doornik. But so far as I can tell it
contains no indication of how daily data are handled.
I tried with "other" option to include daily data with fixing 365 day year
but the problem is in overleap year which has 366 days. So, it's impossible
using this way.
Yes, there is some code on Doornik's page.
Thnx
>From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu>
>Reply-To: Gretl list <gretl-users(a)ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu>
>To: Gretl list <gretl-users(a)ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] Export data function - JMulTi
>Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 08:36:31 -0400 (EDT)
>
>On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, john w wrote:
>
>>Thank you for the export data to JMulTi option !
>>It's nice.
>
>Glad you like it.
>
>And what about the import option? Will you include it too?
Is there much point in that? I wouldn't have thought there was much
primary data available in JMulTi format.
>
>>And just a little correction: JMulti should be written with the capital
>>"T" i.e. JMulTi.
>
>OK, thanks.
>
>>Regarding PcGive data:
>>
>>"That means that at present only annual, quarterly and monthly
>>data are supported. If anyone knows how, e.g. daily data are
>>handled in these files, please let me know."
>>
>>In GiveWin 2 (which is old version) there is a possibility to specify your
>>own data frequency. Althrough annual, quarterly and monthly there is
>>"other data frequency" option. I think that in new GiveWin i.e.
OxMetrics
>>4 there is an option which handles daily data. This must be checked.
>
After some more searching on the web I discovered some code for
reading
in7/bn7 files, available from Doornik. But so far as I can tell it
contains no indication of how daily data are handled.
>
>Allin.
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9:10 p.m.
New subject: Export data function - JMulTi
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, john w wrote:
Regarding:
>> And what about the import option? Will you include it too?
>
> Is there much point in that? I wouldn't have thought there was much
> primary data available in JMulTi format.
It is for me....:))
Maybe there isn't so much data but I use frequently both, gretl and
JMulTi...so it will be a great help.
I've now added an importer for JMulTi data.
Allin.
1:57 a.m.
I was about to make basically the same point but Peter beat me to it. In
fact, if it were entirely up to me, I'd love it if gretl could be
installed to and run from a USB memory stick. I realize that this would
probably be a lot of work just to get around the inconvenience of
dealing with IT departments, so, two votes for minimal installation change.
James
Peter Davidoff wrote:
I have found that GRETL's current installation allows
me to bypass calling the University IT when I need
to install it on a campus PC. On my home computer
where there isn't vast quantities of IT password
protection I tell the installation program to install it
to C:\Program Files\gretl without a problem.
So I worry that if the installation program is made
too "Windows" it will suffer installation delays (3 weeks
last time for me) when I needed IT to install GRETL in
a lab classroom. My vote would be for minimal
installation change.
Peter
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8:34 a.m.
Allin,
You could have a look at how this problem is solved in R. They are
using Innno Setup too. Here are two references:
http://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/rw-FAQ.html#What-are-HOME-and-...
http://cran.r-project.org/doc/manuals/R-admin.html#Installing-R-under-Win...
Their solution adresses the points made by Peter and James: It is
possible to install R on a machine without having full permissions.
And you can run R without any problem from an USB stick.
Hope this helps,
Jean
On 8/20/06, Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu> wrote:
Responding to comments made by Sven a while ago, I'm thinking of
changing the default installation directories for gretl 1.6.0 on
Windows. The current default of "c:\userdata\gretl" makes sense
at Wake Forest University but probably seems odd to most people.
For the program itself, "c:\Program Files" (or equivalent) seems
the obvious choice. But what about the "user" directory? Where
should that go? Perhaps, in the same tree that Word and Excel
use for saving user files by default, but what is that? (Sorry,
I boot Windows very seldom and I don't know these things.)
[In case anyone suggests using the "HOME" environment variable,
let me pre-emptively state that that is not a Windows-ish thing,
and it's not possible to access it using the Inno Setup
installer with any degree of ease.]
Allin Cottrell
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