9:53 p.m.
Dear Gretl Developers,
Today when we update Gretl for Mac OS all the server functions, example
data, and databases are deleted. So every time I update the program need to
re-download these files on the server. I don't have this problem on my
Windows based PC.
I think this is because the default directory in Mac OS/X is inside the
Gretl application ("/Applications/*Gretl.app*
/Contents/Resources/share/gretl/").
My first suggestion: What do you think about moving functions, example data,
and databases to the *.gretl* directory?
My second problem (which generates my second suggestion): Here at my work
the internet access requires secure proxy (with password), so I can't access
server's contents (such as functions and databases).
My second suggestion: Make offline installation of these contents available
(so I can download them using the internet browser and made an offline
installation).
Best,
*Henrique C. de Andrade*
Doutorando em Economia Aplicada
Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
www.ufrgs.br/ppge
7:27 p.m.
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Henrique Andrade wrote:
Today when we update Gretl for Mac OS all the server functions,
example
data, and databases are deleted. So every time I update the program need to
re-download these files on the server. I don't have this problem on my
Windows based PC.
OK, I see what you mean. This problem seems to be a result of
brokenness on the OS X platform. However, I've put in place a
work-around: gretl in the OS X package will by default write
downloaded databases, function files, etc., into ~/gretl. I'm
not using ~/.gretl because that's mostly intended for
invisible stuff. We don't really want users poking around in
there -- assuming they could find it!
My second problem (which generates my second suggestion): Here at my
work
the internet access requires secure proxy (with password), so I can't access
server's contents (such as functions and databases).
Maybe we should enable use of a proxies that require
authentication, but it probably won't happen real soon.
My second suggestion: Make offline installation of these contents
available
(so I can download them using the internet browser and made an offline
installation).
The function packages can be downloaded via
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/gretl/cgi-bin/gretldata.cgi?opt=SHOW_FUNCS
I need to put a link to this somewhere, but if you know where
to look, it's there.
And as of today you can download the gretl databases as
zipfiles, via
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/gretl/cgi-bin/gretldata.cgi?opt=SHOW_DBS
There is a link to this on the "Data for gretl" page. And the
textbook data files are on the same page.
Allin Cottrell
7:52 p.m.
On 21-08-2011, at 21:27, Allin Cottrell wrote:
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Henrique Andrade wrote:
> Today when we update Gretl for Mac OS all the server functions, example
> data, and databases are deleted. So every time I update the program need to
> re-download these files on the server. I don't have this problem on my
> Windows based PC.
OK, I see what you mean. This problem seems to be a result of
brokenness on the OS X platform.
I don't think it is actually something broken.
An application such as Gretl.app manifests itself in the Finder in Mac OS CX as a single
entity (a package).
In unix terms it is a folder hierarchy following a strict set of rules.
When you replace an existing Gretl.app with a new Gretl.app it replaces the existing one
so everything that was added at some time will be deleted. Playing safe I would say.
Most applications in Mac OS X would save additional, modifiable, version independent stuff
in e.g. ~/Library/Application Support/<AppName>.
A lot actually do.
Why not ~/Library/Application Support/Gretl?
That way a user home directory doesn't get filled beyond what's there already.
However, I've put in place a
work-around: gretl in the OS X package will by default write
downloaded databases, function files, etc., into ~/gretl. I'm
not using ~/.gretl because that's mostly intended for
invisible stuff. We don't really want users poking around in
there -- assuming they could find it!
I can. And quickly too:-)
And I clean it every now and then.
Berend
> My second problem (which generates my second suggestion): Here at
my work
> the internet access requires secure proxy (with password), so I can't access
> server's contents (such as functions and databases).
Maybe we should enable use of a proxies that require
authentication, but it probably won't happen real soon.
> My second suggestion: Make offline installation of these contents available
> (so I can download them using the internet browser and made an offline
> installation).
The function packages can be downloaded via
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/gretl/cgi-bin/gretldata.cgi?opt=SHOW_FUNCS
I need to put a link to this somewhere, but if you know where
to look, it's there.
And as of today you can download the gretl databases as
zipfiles, via
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/gretl/cgi-bin/gretldata.cgi?opt=SHOW_DBS
There is a link to this on the "Data for gretl" page. And the
textbook data files are on the same page.
Allin Cottrell
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8:27 p.m.
Em 21 de agosto Allin escreveu:
(...)
Maybe we should enable use of a proxies that require
authentication, but it probably won't happen real soon.
Ok, I think that this is not a priority.
> My second suggestion: Make offline installation of these
contents
available
> (so I can download them using the internet browser and made an offline
> installation).
The function packages can be downloaded via
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/gretl/cgi-bin/gretldata.cgi?opt=SHOW_FUNCS
I need to put a link to this somewhere, but if you know where
to look, it's there.
I think we could place it below the "data for gretl" (on the left side of
Gretl's website). What do you think?
Em 21 de agosto Berend escreveu:
(...)
Most applications in Mac OS X would save additional, modifiable, version
independent stuff in e.g. ~/Library/Application Support/<AppName>.
A lot actually do.
Why not ~/Library/Application Support/Gretl?
That way a user home directory doesn't get filled beyond what's there
already.
I think this place is by far the most adequate :-)
Thanks for your help and comments Allin and Berend!
Um abraço,
*Henrique C. de Andrade*
Doutorando em Economia Aplicada
Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
www.ufrgs.br/ppge
8:34 p.m.
On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Berend Hasselman wrote:
On 21-08-2011, at 21:27, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Henrique Andrade wrote:
>
>> Today when we update Gretl for Mac OS all the server functions, example
>> data, and databases are deleted. So every time I update the program need to
>> re-download these files on the server. I don't have this problem on my
>> Windows based PC.
>
> OK, I see what you mean. This problem seems to be a result of
> brokenness on the OS X platform.
I don't think it is actually something broken.
An application such as Gretl.app manifests itself in the Finder in Mac OS CX as a single
entity (a package).
In unix terms it is a folder hierarchy following a strict set of rules.
When you replace an existing Gretl.app with a new Gretl.app it replaces the existing one
so everything that was added at some time will be deleted. Playing safe I would say.
Most applications in Mac OS X would save additional,
modifiable, version independent stuff in e.g.
~/Library/Application Support/<AppName>. A lot actually do.
Why not ~/Library/Application Support/Gretl?
That way a user home directory doesn't get filled beyond
what's there already.
OK, I won't update the snapshot until I've tried that.
Allin
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