On Sun, July 23, 2006 04:53, Frederick Fagal wrote:
Lurker here...I think Talha needs some encouragement.
I think a litttle splash screeen used SOMEWHERE can help Gretl. Good to have
the acronym explained. Sex sells. In the old time radio forum old-timers are
amazed that shiny radios sell for big bucks (refinished to be shinier than
when new). Maybe place the full Gretl girl image in the background near the
last crumb/bean. Maybe a smaller Hansel (from the rear) ahead of Gretl. Then
have an info box near the bottom of the moon. Keep plugging away everyone. I
used Gretl with a low level stat class a few years ago and it was very
Talha Yalta <talhayalta(a)gmail.com> wrote: You didn't like this one also?
On 7/21/06, Talha Yalta wrote:
> This is the second design that I came up with. I hope you like this
> one. I can make small modifications very easily. What do you think?
This splash screen thing is going a little too far for my taste. I'd like to
summarise the issue as objectively as I can and get some facts straight.
The story so far: Talha plus some other people are convinced that a splash
screen would make gretl look more professional. A few others find a splash
screen a moderate annoyance, good for apps that take ages to load and little
else. The majority has remained pretty much silent. Talha came up with a
proposal. No reactions that I know of except from Allin and myself, who both
missed the little girl. This led to a second proposal (which doesn't feature
the little girl either) on which there has been litle reaction as of today.
Fact # 1: no-one is making money out of gretl -> we don't have to SELL gretl
-> gretl has no need to "look professional".
Consequence: I'd personally like to see widespread adoption of gretl all
around the world, but on its technical merits alone (in a wide sense: I
consider being GPL'ed a technical merit). A sexy splash screen is not
forbidden, but in my view it's totally inessential.
Fact # 2: Vey few people have expressed strong views on this subject so far.
Consequence: I can't see a flamefest coming, which is good. OTOH, I have the
feeling that most people don't really care about the issue. This may prompt
the question "If so few people care, is a splash screen really necessary?",
but this leads us back to #1.
Fact # 3: None of us around here is a visual marketing expert/image designer.
Consequence: Assume for a moment that the masses take hold of the winter
palace and a splash screen becomes priority #1. I'd take it for granted that
the idea we want to convey via the splash screen and the way this is done (ie,
the concept and the actual content) are the outcome of the work by someone who
really know what he's doing: the C code Allin writes is of excellent quality
by any standard; the Italian translation by Cri is of outstanding quality (I
can't judge other translations).
So, is the little girl getting the sack or not? In this scenario, this would
not be a matter of taste anymore, but part of a precise and definite brand
strategy. In my eyes, Talha's proposals look cold, but he's probably keen on
the idea of looking "scientific": infinite planes, Greek letters, the moon,
etc. all project the image of "hard science". On the other hand, a fairytale
character takes your mind to Beatrix Potter books (no relation to Harry),
elegance, a moderate skepticism towards "modernity" and a penchant for a
Wallace&Gromit-like sense of humour. My personal preference goes to Beatrix
Potter and Wallace&Gromit, but, again, this wouldn't be a matter of taste
anymore. Others may think that "shoulders of giants" should be the main theme,
and therefore go for Gauss's face or something like that. (Note that I'm
playing the amateur psychologist here.)
But even if there was a consensus on the concept, then the actual making of
the splash screen requires visual skills that I, for one, don't have. Sure, I
can use the GIMP (badly), but that doesn't turn me into an artist. One of the
reasons why I use LaTeX instead of Word is that I'm not a typesetter, and I
Conclusion: I don't really care that much. If I had to vote, I wouldn't want
any splash screen at all. But I wouldn't really mind one (if done
competently), I just fail the see its importance. Certainly there are hundreds
of other things inside gretl I prefer spending my time working on.
Riccardo "Jack" Lucchetti
Dipartimento di Economia
Facoltà di Economia "G. Fuà"