Re: [Gretl-users] Gretl-users Digest, Vol 84, Issue 14

Send Gretl-users mailing list submissions to gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.wfu.edu/mailman/listinfo/gretl-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gretl-users-request(a)lists.wfu.edu You can reach the person managing the list at gretl-users-owner(a)lists.wfu.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Gretl-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: anybody running gretl on tablets? (Allin Cottrell) 2. Re: anybody running gretl on tablets? (cociuba mihai) 3. Re: anybody running gretl on tablets? (H?lio Guilherme) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:05:59 -0500 (EST) From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu&gt; Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] anybody running gretl on tablets? To: Gretl list <gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu&gt; Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.03.1401241202530.591(a)wfu.edu&gt; Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, Allin Cottrell wrote: >>> If gretl is built against current GTK 3 it can be run in a browser using >>> GDK_BACKEND=broadway (you can try this on your own computer, and find >>> gretl at http://localhost:8080). I'm not sure how this plays out in a real >>> networking context, but it may be worth exploring. > > There's not a great deal of info out there, but see > > https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-broadway.html > https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/broadwayd.html > > These deal with running a GTK 3 app in a browser on your own machine -- > amusing, cool but not very useful. What I don't yet understand is how this > might translate to serving an application such as gretl to people on other > machines, as a "web app". Ah, here's something relevant. This example relies on Red Hat's openshift: http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2013/03/19/broadway-on-openshift/ http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2013/04/03/more-gtk-in-the-cloud/ Allin ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:49:40 +0200 From: cociuba mihai <cociuba(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] anybody running gretl on tablets? To: gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu Message-ID: < CADSiGnWNSbkpbqEzreHSsy1NjGWqcFng4Jte+7OG+ucO6AvOFA(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Allin, I am trying your solution but it seems that Gretl is build using gtk2 Configuration: Installation path: /usr/local Use readline library: yes Use gnuplot for graphs: yes Use LaTeX for typesetting output: yes Use libgsf for zip/unzip: no MPFR support: yes sse2 support for RNG: yes OpenMP support: no AVX support for arithmetic: no Build with GTK version: 2.0 Build gretl documentation: yes Use Lucida fonts: no Build message catalogs: yes X-12-ARIMA support: yes TRAMO/SEATS support: yes libR support: yes ODBC support: no Experimental audio support: no Use xdg-utils in installation: if DESTDIR not set but in terminal the gtk3 seems to be installed *dpkg -s libgtk-3-0|grep '^Version' | cut -d' ' -f2-* *3.8.6-0ubuntu3.1+broadway2 * how can I force Gretl to builld againt GTK3. I tested with gedit and it works perfectly. Mihai On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 7:00 PM, <gretl-users-request(a)lists.wfu.edu&gt; wrote: > Send Gretl-users mailing list submissions to > gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.wfu.edu/mailman/listinfo/gretl-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gretl-users-request(a)lists.wfu.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gretl-users-owner(a)lists.wfu.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Gretl-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: anybody running gretl on tablets? (Sven Schreiber) > 2. Re: anybody running gretl on tablets? (Allin Cottrell) > 3. Re: anybody running gretl on tablets? (Sven Schreiber) > 4. Re: anybody running gretl on tablets? (Allin Cottrell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:43:51 +0100 > From: Sven Schreiber <svetosch(a)gmx.net&gt; > Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] anybody running gretl on tablets? > To: gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu > Message-ID: <52E27C27.50406(a)gmx.net&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Am 24.01.2014 15:30, schrieb cociuba mihai: > > (Disclaimer - not an expert on programming :) ) > > > > I've given RStudio as an example because is not platform dependent, > > you can connect to the server from any web browser (tablet/phone, > > android/windows/ios). > > Well, gretl's graphical interface built on "gtk" is also > platform-independent, that's why there is gretl for Windows and on Mac. > But you're right that web technologies are much more widespread, and of > course the difference is especially visible on tablets and smartphones. > > > > > This would be a big leap forward for gretl in terms of user > > friendliness and capabilities. > > I don't really see this as a big advantage over the status quo, but I > agree that in theory it would be nice to be able to use a web browser as > a frontend. Somebody would have to develop this stuff, however, and IMO > it would be a lot of work... Also, if RStudio does this kind of thing > already, well that's great -- why not use that then? > > -sven > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:34:30 -0500 (EST) > From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu&gt; > Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] anybody running gretl on tablets? > To: Gretl list <gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu&gt; > Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.03.1401240941450.591(a)wfu.edu&gt; > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, cociuba mihai wrote: > > > I'm using R on my tablet by connecting to an online server with RStudio > > server http://www.rstudio.com/ide/server/ and I'm wondering if a > similar > > solution would be feasible for gretl? > > If gretl is built against current GTK 3 it can be run in a browser using > GDK_BACKEND=broadway (you can try this on your own computer, and find > gretl at http://localhost:8080). I'm not sure how this plays out in a real > networking context, but it may be worth exploring. > > Allin > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:38:21 +0100 > From: Sven Schreiber <svetosch(a)gmx.net&gt; > Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] anybody running gretl on tablets? > To: gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu > Message-ID: <52E288ED.7050109(a)gmx.net&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Am 24.01.2014 16:34, schrieb Allin Cottrell: > > On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, cociuba mihai wrote: > > > >> I'm using R on my tablet by connecting to an online server with RStudio > >> server http://www.rstudio.com/ide/server/ and I'm wondering if a > similar > >> solution would be feasible for gretl? > > > > If gretl is built against current GTK 3 it can be run in a browser using > > GDK_BACKEND=broadway (you can try this on your own computer, and find > > gretl at http://localhost:8080). I'm not sure how this plays out in a > real > > networking context, but it may be worth exploring. > > > > > > aha? This sounds very interesting indeed! Dou you have a preferred link > to some docs about this GTK feature? (googling these things usually > turns up a lot of obsolete stuff) > > thanks, > sven > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:37:50 -0500 (EST) > From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu&gt; > Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] anybody running gretl on tablets? > To: Gretl list <gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu&gt; > Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.03.1401241131520.591(a)wfu.edu&gt; > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, Sven Schreiber wrote: > > > Am 24.01.2014 16:34, schrieb Allin Cottrell: > >> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, cociuba mihai wrote: > >> > >>> I'm using R on my tablet by connecting to an online server with RStudio > >>> server http://www.rstudio.com/ide/server/ and I'm wondering if a > similar > >>> solution would be feasible for gretl? > >> > >> If gretl is built against current GTK 3 it can be run in a browser using > >> GDK_BACKEND=broadway (you can try this on your own computer, and find > >> gretl at http://localhost:8080). I'm not sure how this plays out in a > real > >> networking context, but it may be worth exploring. > > > > aha? This sounds very interesting indeed! Dou you have a preferred link > > to some docs about this GTK feature? (googling these things usually > > turns up a lot of obsolete stuff) > > There's not a great deal of info out there, but see > > https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-broadway.html > https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/broadwayd.html > > These deal with running a GTK 3 app in a browser on your own machine -- > amusing, cool but not very useful. What I don't yet understand is how this > might translate to serving an application such as gretl to people on other > machines, as a "web app". > > Allin > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gretl-users mailing list > Gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu > http://lists.wfu.edu/mailman/listinfo/gretl-users > > End of Gretl-users Digest, Vol 84, Issue 13 > ******************************************* > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wfu.edu/pipermail/gretl-users/attachments/20140124/9973c309/... ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:52:20 +0000 From: H?lio Guilherme <helioxentric(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] anybody running gretl on tablets? To: Gretl list <gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu&gt; Message-ID: <CABNCgGS7ixSGcwo-UQM-kg2Q-RJbpMshp607JqD0CGU69-= nuA(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" ./configure --help ;) On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:49 PM, cociuba mihai <cociuba(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Dear Allin, > I am trying your solution but it seems that Gretl is build using gtk2 > Configuration: > > Installation path: /usr/local > Use readline library: yes > Use gnuplot for graphs: yes > Use LaTeX for typesetting output: yes > Use libgsf for zip/unzip: no > MPFR support: yes > sse2 support for RNG: yes > OpenMP support: no > AVX support for arithmetic: no > Build with GTK version: 2.0 > Build gretl documentation: yes > Use Lucida fonts: no > Build message catalogs: yes > X-12-ARIMA support: yes > TRAMO/SEATS support: yes > libR support: yes > ODBC support: no > Experimental audio support: no > Use xdg-utils in installation: if DESTDIR not set > but in terminal the gtk3 seems to be installed > *dpkg -s libgtk-3-0|grep '^Version' | cut -d' ' -f2-* > *3.8.6-0ubuntu3.1+broadway2 * > how can I force Gretl to builld againt GTK3. > I tested with gedit and it works perfectly. > > Mihai > > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 7:00 PM, <gretl-users-request(a)lists.wfu.edu >wrote: > >> Send Gretl-users mailing list submissions to >> gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.wfu.edu/mailman/listinfo/gretl-users >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> gretl-users-request(a)lists.wfu.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> gretl-users-owner(a)lists.wfu.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Gretl-users digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: anybody running gretl on tablets? (Sven Schreiber) >> 2. Re: anybody running gretl on tablets? (Allin Cottrell) >> 3. Re: anybody running gretl on tablets? (Sven Schreiber) >> 4. Re: anybody running gretl on tablets? (Allin Cottrell) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:43:51 +0100 >> From: Sven Schreiber <svetosch(a)gmx.net&gt; >> Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] anybody running gretl on tablets? >> To: gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu >> Message-ID: <52E27C27.50406(a)gmx.net&gt; >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> >> Am 24.01.2014 15:30, schrieb cociuba mihai: >> > (Disclaimer - not an expert on programming :) ) >> > >> > I've given RStudio as an example because is not platform dependent, >> > you can connect to the server from any web browser (tablet/phone, >> > android/windows/ios). >> >> Well, gretl's graphical interface built on "gtk" is also >> platform-independent, that's why there is gretl for Windows and on Mac. >> But you're right that web technologies are much more widespread, and of >> course the difference is especially visible on tablets and smartphones. >> >> > >> > This would be a big leap forward for gretl in terms of user >> > friendliness and capabilities. >> >> I don't really see this as a big advantage over the status quo, but I >> agree that in theory it would be nice to be able to use a web browser as >> a frontend. Somebody would have to develop this stuff, however, and IMO >> it would be a lot of work... Also, if RStudio does this kind of thing >> already, well that's great -- why not use that then? >> >> -sven >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:34:30 -0500 (EST) >> From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu&gt; >> Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] anybody running gretl on tablets? >> To: Gretl list <gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu&gt; >> Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.03.1401240941450.591(a)wfu.edu&gt; >> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> >> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, cociuba mihai wrote: >> >> > I'm using R on my tablet by connecting to an online server with RStudio >> > server http://www.rstudio.com/ide/server/ and I'm wondering if a >> similar >> > solution would be feasible for gretl? >> >> If gretl is built against current GTK 3 it can be run in a browser using >> GDK_BACKEND=broadway (you can try this on your own computer, and find >> gretl at http://localhost:8080). I'm not sure how this plays out in a >> real >> networking context, but it may be worth exploring. >> >> Allin >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:38:21 +0100 >> From: Sven Schreiber <svetosch(a)gmx.net&gt; >> Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] anybody running gretl on tablets? >> To: gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu >> Message-ID: <52E288ED.7050109(a)gmx.net&gt; >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> >> Am 24.01.2014 16:34, schrieb Allin Cottrell: >> > On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, cociuba mihai wrote: >> > >> >> I'm using R on my tablet by connecting to an online server with RStudio >> >> server http://www.rstudio.com/ide/server/ and I'm wondering if a >> similar >> >> solution would be feasible for gretl? >> > >> > If gretl is built against current GTK 3 it can be run in a browser using >> > GDK_BACKEND=broadway (you can try this on your own computer, and find >> > gretl at http://localhost:8080). I'm not sure how this plays out in a >> real >> > networking context, but it may be worth exploring. >> > >> > >> >> aha? This sounds very interesting indeed! Dou you have a preferred link >> to some docs about this GTK feature? (googling these things usually >> turns up a lot of obsolete stuff) >> >> thanks, >> sven >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:37:50 -0500 (EST) >> From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu&gt; >> Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] anybody running gretl on tablets? >> To: Gretl list <gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu&gt; >> Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.03.1401241131520.591(a)wfu.edu&gt; >> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> >> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, Sven Schreiber wrote: >> >> > Am 24.01.2014 16:34, schrieb Allin Cottrell: >> >> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, cociuba mihai wrote: >> >> >> >>> I'm using R on my tablet by connecting to an online server with >> RStudio >> >>> server http://www.rstudio.com/ide/server/ and I'm wondering if a >> similar >> >>> solution would be feasible for gretl? >> >> >> >> If gretl is built against current GTK 3 it can be run in a browser >> using >> >> GDK_BACKEND=broadway (you can try this on your own computer, and find >> >> gretl at http://localhost:8080). I'm not sure how this plays out in a >> real >> >> networking context, but it may be worth exploring. >> > >> > aha? This sounds very interesting indeed! Dou you have a preferred link >> > to some docs about this GTK feature? (googling these things usually >> > turns up a lot of obsolete stuff) >> >> There's not a great deal of info out there, but see >> >> https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk-broadway.html >> https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/broadwayd.html >> >> These deal with running a GTK 3 app in a browser on your own machine -- >> amusing, cool but not very useful. What I don't yet understand is how this >> might translate to serving an application such as gretl to people on other >> machines, as a "web app". >> >> Allin >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gretl-users mailing list >> Gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu >> http://lists.wfu.edu/mailman/listinfo/gretl-users >> >> End of Gretl-users Digest, Vol 84, Issue 13 >> ******************************************* >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gretl-users mailing list > Gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu > http://lists.wfu.edu/mailman/listinfo/gretl-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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