What version at what system do you use? ? armax(4, 0, BNS, null, 1, 1, 0, 1, 0)
===============================================  Information Criteria of ARMAX(p,q) for
BNS -----------------------------------------------  p, q          AIC           BIC      
    HQC -----------------------------------------------  0, 0    -501.3442*    -498.7390*
   -500.2898*  1, 0    -497.8805     -490.0650     -494.7174   2, 0    -495.9302    
-485.5096     -491.7128   3, 0    -494.1461     -481.1202     -488.8743   4, 0  
 -492.4112     -476.7802     -486.0851  =============================================== *
indicates best models 
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Від кого: Tim Nall < tnall.ling(a)gmail.com > 
Дата: 26 квітня 2014, 17:53:48 
Ah, I have already sent the exact subsample, in a follow-up email. Did it not go through
the list? I don't think I forgot to attach it. 
Perhaps  the zeroes in the sample cause the crash when they occur in a specific location
(first, second, next-to-last or last, perhaps?) 
And thanks for the additional info about Tobit-style non-linear models. 
TMN 
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 10:37 PM, < oleg_komashko(a)ukr.net > wrote: 
If you are interested in the reason for crushing armax I should have exact subsample
causing crush. If you are interested in correct modelling of this data you should look for
some nonlinear model for censored data, something Tobit-style: discrete zeros have
non-zero probability in your sample 
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Дата: 26 квітня 2014, 15:55:09 
This one likes to crash (attached as text file). I wonder, is  armax_auto  aware of the
sample range I selected via GUI? Not that it matters to me, but it may be important. 
TMN 
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:15 PM, < oleg_komashko(a)ukr.net > wrote: 
Can you supply the data set? As attachment, may be. 
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Від кого: "Tim Nall" < tnall.ling(a)gmail.com > 
Дата: 26 квітня 2014, 13:19:16 
Thanks to all for the replies. Will try to find TRAMO. meanwhile, the
armax-auto option occasionally generates this error:
? armax(4, 4, BOTH, null, 1, 1, 0, 1, 0)
BFGS: initial value of objective function is not finite
*** error in function armax, line 82
 loop q = 0..maxq 
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Riccardo (Jack) Lucchetti
< r.lucchetti(a)univpm.it > wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Apr 2014, oleg_komashko(a)ukr.net  wrote:
> You can use armax_auto (see time series menu in Gretl GUI). The function
> has a drawback: the cycle crushes on encountering a unit root in MA part of
> the model Also you can use auto.arima{forecast} in R My experience tells it
> would be better to determine the order of integration (use unit root tests)
> beforehand and use, say "d=1" in auto.arima (type ?auto.arima in R
console)
 That's a function package, you may need to install it first: go to
 Files>Function Files>On server.
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