On Mon, 12 Nov 2018, oleg_komashko(a)ukr.net wrote:
 --x-12-arima behavior tells than even they
 use a different algorithm [...] 
We know quite well that the X-13-ARIMA people use a different 
algorithm, since they tell us so in their documentation: it's an 
algorithm that switches between ML and GLS. We are probably not 
going to replicate that, effective as it may be.
 in practice the behavior of their estimates is indistinguisheable 
 from my arima3 
Oleh, if you have a definite recommendation for how gretl's arma 
should be revised, please say so. Preferably backed up by testing on 
a reasonably wide variety of datasets, including the "classic" 
benchmarks such as Box-Jenkins.
My objection to adding more arma options is not an objection to 
change as such. It's just that if we can find a way to "do it 
right", in general, then that should be the default, not something 
that an expert has to select.
Allin