Re: [Gretl-devel] gretl-quartz, take 3

On Wed, 3 Apr 2013, Berend Hasselman wrote: > On 30-03-2013, at 17:44, Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu&gt; wrote: > >> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013, Riccardo (Jack) Lucchetti wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013, Berend Hasselman wrote: >>> >>>> It's a significant achievement to have come so far. >>>> >>>> It would be really nice if the mac integration could be pushed further. >>>> With the keyboard control that I have mentioned in previous posts. It looks >>>> like you have done all that is possible so maybe some advice from gtk-osx >>>> people can shed some light on how to proceed. >>> >>> IMHO setting the look and feel of the Mac version "right" would warrant by >>> itself a new release, considering the growing popularity of the platform (OSX >>> accounts for about 1/6 of downloads currently, with much higher peaks in some >>> countries like the US or France). >> >> I agree, but there's still some way to go; and getting the >> remaining stuff right will probably have to involve fixes in >> the gtk-mac-integration library, which we're relying upon for >> the top-of-screen menu functionality. > > > Recently a completely native Quartz build of Gimp 2.8.4 was released (http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/News/Eintrage/2013/3/21_GIMP_2.8.4_release...). It uses a Mac version of GTK. > > It has the menu at the top of the screen and lots of Mac keyboard shortcuts. > > I tested if Control+F2 would activate the application's menu. > No. > > I have reported this to the developer and received the reply > > "Hhmm, you're right. The keyboard shortcut does not work, so sadly, that's one more drawback of a native build. Sorry. I'll try to find a solution for this issue…" > > First letter navigation in the menu works. > > It would seem a good idea to keep in touch with the developer of the Mac native Gimp to see if she is able to find a solution. The email address is on the support page of the site (http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/Support.html) in obfuscated form. Yes, that's a good suggestion. I did send a message to gtk-osx-users; the reply I got seemed to indicate that it wasn't surprising that the things I mentioned (in relation to gtk-mac-integration) were not working right. Maybe the gimp people are a step ahead. In the meantime I'm also working on a new 64-bit gretl-X11 package for OS X 10.6 and higher. This uses up-to-date GTK, has themeing, and has GTK built-in (like the quartz package). It might be advantageous to have a 2-step install (Xquartz + gretl) rather than 3-step as at present -- at least as an interim stage.