10:56 a.m.
Hi there,
the date of modification in the folder browser from gretl is always unknown (see below).
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I have this problem every since I remember... but if that could be solved somehow, that
would be nice (windows 7, 64bit).
Best
Frederik
11:24 a.m.
Am 25.10.2017 um 12:56 schrieb Schaff, Frederik:
Hi there,
the date of modification in the folder browser from gretl is always
unknown (see below).
I have this problem every since I remember… but if that could be solved
somehow, that would be nice (windows 7, 64bit).
I can confirm that; I have never noticed it because I usually open files
from the file explorer via drag-and-drop (which obviously also is a
workaround for this issue).
thanks,
sven
3:25 p.m.
On Wed, 25 Oct 2017, Sven Schreiber wrote:
Am 25.10.2017 um 12:56 schrieb Schaff, Frederik:
> Hi there,
>
> the date of modification in the folder browser from gretl is always unknown
> (see below).
>
> I have this problem every since I remember… but if that could be solved
> somehow, that would be nice (windows 7, 64bit).
I can confirm that; I have never noticed it because I usually open
files from the file explorer via drag-and-drop (which obviously also
is a workaround for this issue).
I'm not seeing that here (Windows 10). Can anyone else comment?
The problem reported is that the "Modified" column in the (GTK) file
chooser dialog shows "unknown" for all files -- for Frederik and Sven
at least, and I presume others. For me it shows dates of last
modification, as expected.
Googling this I came across
http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12753&start=10
So some people have seen the same issue with Gimp on Windows, but I
didn't see any definite diagnosis.
Allin
4:09 p.m.
Hi,
I hope to understand ok.
In my system: Windows 10, gretl 2017d-git MS Windowsx86_64 (2017/10/24),
I change the languague to German, and with Datei->Öffne Daten->Benutzedatei... in
'Letzte Änderung' the date seems ok.
In my language (Galician) also is OK.
But when I change the languague to Automatic or English, then appears 'Unknown'.
Cheers.
Juan C. Estevez
Universidade de Santiago de Compostela
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Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu>
Enviado: mércores, 25 de outubro de 2017 17:25:18
Para: Gretl development
Asunto: Re: [Gretl-devel] date modified in file browser
On Wed, 25 Oct 2017, Sven Schreiber wrote:
Am 25.10.2017 um 12:56 schrieb Schaff, Frederik:
> Hi there,
>
> the date of modification in the folder browser from gretl is always unknown
> (see below).
>
> I have this problem every since I remember… but if that could be solved
> somehow, that would be nice (windows 7, 64bit).
I can confirm that; I have never noticed it because I usually open
files from the file explorer via drag-and-drop (which obviously also
is a workaround for this issue).
I'm not seeing that here (Windows 10). Can anyone else comment?
The problem reported is that the "Modified" column in the (GTK) file
chooser dialog shows "unknown" for all files -- for Frederik and Sven
at least, and I presume others. For me it shows dates of last
modification, as expected.
Googling this I came across
http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12753&start=10
So some people have seen the same issue with Gimp on Windows, but I
didn't see any definite diagnosis.
Allin
5:39 p.m.
On Wed, 25 Oct 2017, ESTEVEZ NUÑEZ JUAN CARLOS wrote:
I hope to understand ok.
You do!
In my system: Windows 10, gretl 2017d-git MS Windowsx86_64
(2017/10/24),
I change the languague to German, and with Datei->Öffne
Daten->Benutzedatei... in 'Letzte Änderung' the date seems ok.
In my language (Galician) also is OK.
But when I change the languague to Automatic or English, then
appears 'Unknown'.
Hmm, interesting, thanks. So it seems to be an i18n issue.
Allin
12:19 p.m.
Am 25.10.2017 um 19:39 schrieb Allin Cottrell:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2017, ESTEVEZ NUÑEZ JUAN CARLOS wrote:
> But when I change the languague to Automatic or English, then
appears
> 'Unknown'.
Hmm, interesting, thanks. So it seems to be an i18n issue.
Strange, I wanted to check (here on Windows 7) the $lang setting (which
gives me de_DE as expected), and I've noticed that the issue is gone,
with language preference set to Automatic.
Just before that check I restarted gretl because for some other reason
it was set to English.
@Frederik: Does a gretl restart change anything for you?
However, setting it back to "English" (and restarting gretl again,
obviously), the problem re-appears.
This is with an Oct 23rd snapshot, so can't be due to any changes Allin
may or may not have applied in the meantime.
thanks,
sven
7:13 p.m.
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017, Sven Schreiber wrote:
Am 25.10.2017 um 19:39 schrieb Allin Cottrell:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2017, ESTEVEZ NUÑEZ JUAN CARLOS wrote:
>> But when I change the languague to Automatic or English, then appears
>> 'Unknown'.
>
> Hmm, interesting, thanks. So it seems to be an i18n issue.
Strange, I wanted to check (here on Windows 7) the $lang setting (which gives
me de_DE as expected), and I've noticed that the issue is gone, with language
preference set to Automatic.
Just before that check I restarted gretl because for some other reason it was
set to English.
@Frederik: Does a gretl restart change anything for you?
However, setting it back to "English" (and restarting gretl again,
obviously), the problem re-appears.
This is with an Oct 23rd snapshot, so can't be due to any changes Allin may
or may not have applied in the meantime.
I have not made any relevant changes lately. I don't fully
understand this problem yet but I can see it's a GTK-on-Windows
issue, which arises when the "system codepage" and the "C-library
codepage" are not the same. Under certain conditions GTK can't
figure out what locale it should be using to display dates/times and
so it just prints "Unknown".
I think I can see a way of working around the problem by modifying
the GTK source file gtkfilechooserdefault.c -- when GTK stalls on
the locale we could just print the information in generic ISO format
-- but I can't be sure of that till I'm clearer on exactly how/when
the issue arises.
Allin
3:36 p.m.
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017, Allin Cottrell wrote:
I think I can see a way of working around the problem by modifying
the GTK
source file gtkfilechooserdefault.c -- when GTK stalls on the locale we could
just print the information in generic ISO format -- but I can't be sure of
that till I'm clearer on exactly how/when the issue arises.
In the current 64-bit Windows snapshot there's an attempted fix that
might work. Please test. If it works I'll modify the 32-bit gtk in
the same way.
Allin
3:57 p.m.
Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Allin Cottrell:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> I think I can see a way of working around the problem by modifying the
> GTK source file gtkfilechooserdefault.c -- when GTK stalls on the
> locale we could just print the information in generic ISO format --
> but I can't be sure of that till I'm clearer on exactly how/when the
> issue arises.
In the current 64-bit Windows snapshot there's an attempted fix that
might work. Please test. If it works I'll modify the 32-bit gtk in the
same way.
I'm not seeing the "unknown" thing anymore. For "Automatic" and
"German"
I'm seeing the standard German date format. For "English" it is an ISO
format I think, yyyy-mm-dd, which is not necessarily the standard
English (US or UK) format I guess.
And BTW, there is no time stamp in any setting, just the date, don't
remember if previous versions had it. Whereas for example LyX does
display also the time of the last change.
thanks,
sven
4:16 p.m.
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017, Sven Schreiber wrote:
Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Allin Cottrell:
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2017, Allin Cottrell wrote:
>
>> I think I can see a way of working around the problem by modifying the GTK
>> source file gtkfilechooserdefault.c -- when GTK stalls on the locale we
>> could just print the information in generic ISO format -- but I can't be
>> sure of that till I'm clearer on exactly how/when the issue arises.
>
> In the current 64-bit Windows snapshot there's an attempted fix that might
> work. Please test. If it works I'll modify the 32-bit gtk in the same way.
>
I'm not seeing the "unknown" thing anymore. For "Automatic" and
"German" I'm
seeing the standard German date format. For "English" it is an ISO format I
think, yyyy-mm-dd, which is not necessarily the standard English (US or UK)
format I guess.
Indeed, it's the ISO 8601 fallback that I mentioned.
And BTW, there is no time stamp in any setting, just the date,
don't remember
if previous versions had it. Whereas for example LyX does display also the
time of the last change.
You'll see H:M for file modified within the last 24 hours. The GTK
filechooser doesn't show time-of-day for older files.
Allin
4:33 p.m.
Am 28.10.2017 um 18:16 schrieb Allin Cottrell:
You'll see H:M for file modified within the last 24 hours. The
GTK
filechooser doesn't show time-of-day for older files.
Right, OK.
During testing another thing related to locale settings caught my attention:
I now have language set to German, but deactivated the locale-specific
decimal separator. When I run the SVAR sample script, I'm getting at the
end:
<output>
...
0.49840 0.50160 0.43081 0.56919
0.49873 0.50127 0.43082 0.56918
...
Bootstrapping model (1024 iterations)
Failed = 0, Time (bootstrap) = 8,20374
...
</output>
Notice the decimal dots in the matrix printout (as intended), but the
decimal comma in the timing printout at the end. The responsible line in
the script is:
printf "Failed = %d, Time (bootstrap) = %g\n", bfail, $stopwatch
Strangely this does _not_ happen when I have set the language to
"Automatic", as usual.
thanks,
sven
9:35 p.m.
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017, Allin Cottrell wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017, Sven Schreiber wrote:
> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Allin Cottrell:
>> On Fri, 27 Oct 2017, Allin Cottrell wrote:
>>
>>> I think I can see a way of working around the problem by modifying the
>>> GTK source file gtkfilechooserdefault.c -- when GTK stalls on the locale
>>> we could just print the information in generic ISO format -- but I can't
>>> be sure of that till I'm clearer on exactly how/when the issue arises.
>>
>> In the current 64-bit Windows snapshot there's an attempted fix that might
>> work. Please test. If it works I'll modify the 32-bit gtk in the same way.
>>
>
> I'm not seeing the "unknown" thing anymore. For "Automatic"
and "German"
> I'm seeing the standard German date format. For "English" it is an ISO
> format I think, yyyy-mm-dd, which is not necessarily the standard English
> (US or UK) format I guess.
Indeed, it's the ISO 8601 fallback that I mentioned.
But maybe we can get the right locale to show up... There's now
another 64-bit Windows snapshot in place. I'm not sure this'll work,
and it might even break other aspects of localization, so please
test so I can revert the most recent change if need be.
Allin
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