Hi, irrelevant musings: Looking at the C source code of the infamous Apple security flaw, which goes something like this (hopefully indentation is preserved in the message on the list): <pseudoC> if (condition) goto fail; goto fail; </pseudoC> it seems to me to be the proof that having a syntax which can is easy to read not just for the compiler/interpreter but also for humans is a good thing per se. The good news is that in hansl an 'endif' would have been missing and would have caused an error. Python also would have thrown an IndentationError I think, which is proof that having significant whitespace in Python is a good thing :-) Of course some people say it's just bad style to use 'if' in C without braces, which is true I guess, but then better to enforce the good style instead of just recommending it... enough irrelevance for the day, sven