that does not require X11/XQuartz. Now, it seems to me, is the time. There's an experimental package (dmg) named gretl-quartz.dmg in http://sourceforge.net/projects/gretl/files/osx-testing/ This is an all-in-one package: no need for X11, and no need for a separate GTK framework. The dmg includes gretl 1.9.12cvs and a Mac-native build of GTK 2.24.17 and friends.

Caveats: (1) This is a 64-bit intel-only build for OS X 10.6 and higher. (2) Gtk-quartz uses Apple's CoreText apparatus rather than FreeType plus fontconfig, and the default font sizes in the two systems seem to differ, such that the font specification appropriate to the X11 version of GTK produces a small, spindly font under quartz. Your mileage may vary, but I have found that the following settings (under gretl's /Tools/Preferences) produce an acceptable look: "Menu font": Geneva 12- or 13-point "Fixed font": Menlo 12-point

It would be good if people could test this. I've played around a little, found a few problems and fixed them, but I haven't tested very intensively yet.

I've mentioned this a few times before: a build of gretl for OS X that does not require X11/XQuartz. Now, it seems to me, is the time. There's an experimental package (dmg) named gretl-quartz.dmg in http://sourceforge.net/projects/gretl/files/osx-testing/ This is an all-in-one package: no need for X11, and no need for a separate GTK framework. The dmg includes gretl 1.9.12cvs and a Mac-native build of GTK 2.24.17 and friends. Caveats: (1) This is a 64-bit intel-only build for OS X 10.6 and higher. (2) Gtk-quartz uses Apple's CoreText apparatus rather than FreeType plus fontconfig, and the default font sizes in the two systems seem to differ, such that the font specification appropriate to the X11 version of GTK produces a small, spindly font under quartz. Your mileage may vary, but I have found that the following settings (under gretl's /Tools/Preferences) produce an acceptable look: "Menu font": Geneva 12- or 13-point "Fixed font": Menlo 12-point It would be good if people could test this. I've played around a little, found a few problems and fixed them, but I haven't tested very intensively yet.

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013, Berend Hasselman wrote: > On 18-03-2013, at 03:02, Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu&gt; wrote: > >> I've mentioned this a few times before: a build of gretl for OS X that does not require X11/XQuartz. Now, it seems to me, is the time. There's an experimental package (dmg) named gretl-quartz.dmg in >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gretl/files/osx-testing/ [...] > > Using OS X 10.8.3 Mountain Lion. > > I've used the following fonts: > > Menu: Lucida Grande 13-point (text appears less bunched up compared to Geneva) Fixed: Monaco 13-point Yes, I now realize that Lucida Grande is the standard Mac system font. > Further comments: > > - using gnuplot in the main window with shortcut t or from the menu View, Graph specified vars did work for me Yes, it's just an interactive gnuplot session that doesn't work at present. > - opening a user script presented no problem; it ran without a hitch > - opening klein.inp and running it worked Me too. > - Alt keys don't work for accessing menus. That seems to be a theming thing. I'm working on a GUI theme selector, but in the meantime if you delete Gretl.app/Contents/Resources/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc (or just edit it, commenting out the theme call), you'll get back the traditional GTK look which (I think) should support the Alt-key mechanism.

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013, Berend Hasselman wrote: > On 18-03-2013, at 14:59, Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu&gt; wrote: > >> On Mon, 18 Mar 2013, Berend Hasselman wrote: >> >>> On 18-03-2013, at 03:02, Allin Cottrell <cottrell(a)wfu.edu&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> I've mentioned this a few times before: a build of gretl for OS X that does not require X11/XQuartz. Now, it seems to me, is the time. There's an experimental package (dmg) named gretl-quartz.dmg in >>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gretl/files/osx-testing/ >> [...] >>> >>> Using OS X 10.8.3 Mountain Lion. >>> >>> I've used the following fonts: >>> >>> Menu: Lucida Grande 13-point (text appears less bunched up compared to Geneva) Fixed: Monaco 13-point >> >> Yes, I now realize that Lucida Grande is the standard Mac system font. >> >>> Further comments: >>> >>> - using gnuplot in the main window with shortcut t or from the menu View, Graph specified vars did work for me >> >> Yes, it's just an interactive gnuplot session that doesn't work at present. >> >>> - opening a user script presented no problem; it ran without a hitch >>> - opening klein.inp and running it worked >> >> Me too. >> >>> - Alt keys don't work for accessing menus. >> >> That seems to be a theming thing. I'm working on a GUI theme selector, but in the meantime if you delete >> >> Gretl.app/Contents/Resources/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc >> >> (or just edit it, commenting out the theme call), you'll get back the traditional GTK look which (I think) should support the Alt-key mechanism. > > I have just tried that. Make no difference. Alt keys don't work. OK, thanks for testing. Do the Alt keys work OK with the X11 build?