9:47 p.m.
Hi everybody and Hélio in particular,
what actually happened to the project some years ago to get a more
"modern" look into gretl with new icons? It would really be nice to have
"clearer" and more iconic icons.
thanks,
sven
12:22 a.m.
Well, I only converted the images to SVG. The objective was to have them
properly scaled on different screens.
Do we think it would be advantageous to recover that idea?
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On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Sven Schreiber <svetosch(a)gmx.net> wrote:
Hi everybody and Hélio in particular,
what actually happened to the project some years ago to get a more
"modern" look into gretl with new icons? It would really be nice to have
"clearer" and more iconic icons.
thanks,
sven
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11:54 a.m.
Am 26.11.2017 um 01:22 schrieb Hélio Guilherme:
Well, I only converted the images to SVG. The objective was to have
them
properly scaled on different screens.
Do we think it would be advantageous to recover that idea?
I don't quite remember what the outcome (or status quo) is -- are the
SVG versions already in use? If so, also on Windows?
thanks,
sven
12:36 a.m.
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017, Sven Schreiber wrote:
Hi everybody and Hélio in particular,
what actually happened to the project some years ago to get a more
"modern" look into gretl with new icons? It would really be nice to have
"clearer" and more iconic icons.
Are there any icons you have in mind in particular, for replacement?
Allin
12:07 p.m.
Am 26.11.2017 um 01:36 schrieb Allin Cottrell:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017, Sven Schreiber wrote:
> what actually happened to the project some years ago to get a
more
> "modern" look into gretl with new icons? It would really be nice to
> have "clearer" and more iconic icons.
Are there any icons you have in mind in particular, for replacement?
I think there are two things here -- and of course with icons everything
is a matter of taste.
The first thing is purely about the Windows version: That is based on
GTK-2 I think. I'm wondering if it's possible to switch to the
corresponding GTK-3 icons wherever the stock icons are used. That would
fit in better with newer OSes I think.
Secondly, gretl-specific icons: Some look pretty "pixelated" and not
very "iconic", if you know what I mean. However, this has also to do
with the pixel density and in terms of window looks also on the Windows
version.
Let's consider the toolbar in the main window for example: on my laptop
screen with lots of pixels per cm (and Win7) the icons don't look very
modern but OK. On a bigger but standard desktop screen with less pixels
per cm (and Win10) especially the "open gretl console", "session icon
view" and "X-Y-graph" icons look suboptimal.
I've looked at the icon collection on a stock Ubuntu 17.10 system and
found some icons that might be nice and useful. I could send more
details later.
cheers,
sven
8:09 p.m.
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Sven Schreiber wrote:
The first thing is purely about the Windows version: That is based on
GTK-2 I
think.
Yes, many of the icons we use are from the gtk2 "stock" collection.
I'm wondering if it's possible to switch to the corresponding
GTK-3
icons wherever the stock icons are used. That would fit in better with newer
OSes I think.
I'm afraid there aren't any gtk3 icons; they have deprecated all the
"stock" stuff and not replaced it with anything. Under gtk3 icons are
supposed to come from some (gnome or similar) "icon theme" or other.
Secondly, gretl-specific icons: Some look pretty
"pixelated" and not very
"iconic", if you know what I mean. However, this has also to do with the
pixel density and in terms of window looks also on the Windows version.
Let's consider the toolbar in the main window for example: on my laptop
screen with lots of pixels per cm (and Win7) the icons don't look very modern
but OK. On a bigger but standard desktop screen with less pixels per cm (and
Win10) especially the "open gretl console", "session icon view" and
"X-Y-graph" icons look suboptimal.
The pixelation business is in principle solvable if we went over to
using Helio's SVG versions. I think that would mean introducing a
dependency on librsvg but maybe that's worthwhile.
I've looked at the icon collection on a stock Ubuntu 17.10 system and found
some icons that might be nice and useful. I could send more details later.
There are lots of icon themes these days. We could investigate
grabbing icons from one of them for our Windows build, if there's any
consensus on which to go for.
Allin
8:44 p.m.
Am 27.11.2017 um 21:09 schrieb Allin Cottrell:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Sven Schreiber wrote:
I'm afraid there aren't any gtk3 icons; they have deprecated
all the
"stock" stuff and not replaced it with anything. Under gtk3 icons are
supposed to come from some (gnome or similar) "icon theme" or other.
Hm, I see. But that means less need to adhere to any kind of standard
(at least on Windows), no?
> Secondly, gretl-specific icons: Some look pretty
"pixelated" and not
> very "iconic", if you know what I mean.
The pixelation business is in principle solvable if we went over to
using Helio's SVG versions. I think that would mean introducing a
dependency on librsvg but maybe that's worthwhile.
Aha, so that's the answer to my other question, the SVG stuff isn't used
yet. To me this dependency wouldn't seem exaggerated these days, but
maybe others have a different view. (Would it have side benefits for
some gnuplot features?)
> I've looked at the icon collection on a stock Ubuntu 17.10
system and
> found some icons that might be nice and useful. I could send more
> details later.
There are lots of icon themes these days. We could investigate grabbing
icons from one of them for our Windows build, if there's any consensus
on which to go for.
Sorry, I forgot to send them. Here's an incomplete and subjective list:
- suggestion for packages/addons menu entries or buttons:
application-x-addon-symbolic.svg
extension.svg
applications-puzzles.svg
- suggestion for the icon session view button (and menu):
x-office-calendar-symbolic.svg
view-app-grid-symbolic.svg
- suggestion für settings buttons/menus:
configuration_section.svg
- suggestion for the test statistic calculator (not the calculator
button on the toolbar):
applications-utilities.svg
Another icon I'd like to update is the X-Y-plot on the toolbar, but I
haven't anything worthwhile yet.
thanks,
sven
--
[If anybody is interested, these are the install locations on Ubuntu 17.10:
/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/scalable/mimetypes/application-x-addon-symbolic.svg
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/mimes/48/extension.svg
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/categories/48/applications-puzzles.svg
/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/scalable/mimetypes/x-office-calendar-symbolic.svg
/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/scalable/actions/view-app-grid-symbolic.svg
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/categories/16/configuration_section.svg
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/categories/24/applications-utilities.svg]
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