Happy new year, 'end if' with space is deprecated. Don't know about 'end loop', but it seems to work although the help says 'endloop'. What about the other 'end' things? Personally I find it difficult to memorize the differences of the space usage in 'endif' compared to 'end function', for example. I don't have a preference for or against spaces, but when spaces are abolished, couldn't it be done for all such keywords? thanks, sven