8:58 a.m.
Hello,
I would suggest various additions to the frontpage on gretl.sf.net in
the Features section:
* add a "panel estimators" entry after time series and limited dep. vars
* perhaps also mention "structural VARs" under the time series methods point
* add the "Hansl" name at the bullet point "integrated powerful
scripting language", and integrate the following bullet point about
command loop structures; also, add keywords such as "matrix and algebra
programming"
* The point "Links to... <other languages>" is quite vague I think and
even somehow sounds as if gretl necessarily is not enough to do "further
data analysis".
Also while the "foreign" feature is quite cool for insiders and
experienced users I'm not sure whether it is a selling point for people
that don't know gretl yet.
Just some thoughts,
sven
9:19 a.m.
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Sven Schreiber wrote:
Hello,
I would suggest various additions to the frontpage on gretl.sf.net in
the Features section:
[...]
Also while the "foreign" feature is quite cool for insiders
and
experienced users I'm not sure whether it is a selling point for people
that don't know gretl yet.
While I agree with all the above, I think that the "foreign" feature can
be a nice selling point for those who would like to switch to gretl
"gently", so to speak. The key, IMO, is putting this in a positive way;
something like "interact easily with other packages, such as R, Stata, Ox,
Matlab...", or "combine their capabilities", or "join forces", or
something like that. Marketing droids, where are you?
-------------------------------------------------------
Riccardo (Jack) Lucchetti
Dipartimento di Scienze Economiche e Sociali (DiSES)
Università Politecnica delle Marche
(formerly known as Università di Ancona)
r.lucchetti(a)univpm.it
http://www2.econ.univpm.it/servizi/hpp/lucchetti
-------------------------------------------------------
9:31 a.m.
El 29/06/15 a las 10:58, Sven Schreiber escribió:
Hello,
I would suggest various additions to the frontpage on gretl.sf.net in
the Features section:
* add a "panel estimators" entry after time series and limited dep. vars
* perhaps also mention "structural VARs" under the time series methods point
* add the "Hansl" name at the bullet point "integrated powerful
scripting language", and integrate the following bullet point about
command loop structures; also, add keywords such as "matrix and algebra
programming"
I agree on everything.
* The point "Links to... <other languages>" is quite vague I think and
even somehow sounds as if gretl necessarily is not enough to do "further
data analysis".
Also while the "foreign" feature is quite cool for insiders and
experienced users I'm not sure whether it is a selling point for people
that don't know gretl yet.
I understand your doubts about whether it shows a strength or a weakness
from a marketing point of view.
It could be more convenient to remove it or to write it so that, instead
of citing a simple link, it may highlight the ease of integration with
these other languages
--
Ignacio Díaz-Emparanza
Departamento de Economía Aplicada III (Econometría y Estadística)
Universidad del País Vasco - Euskalherriko Unibertsitatea, UPV/EHU
Tfno: (+34) 94 601 3732
http://www.ehu.eus/ea3
7:51 p.m.
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Sven Schreiber wrote:
Hello,
I would suggest various additions to the frontpage on gretl.sf.net in
the Features section:
* add a "panel estimators" entry after time series and limited dep. vars
* perhaps also mention "structural VARs" under the time series methods point
* add the "Hansl" name at the bullet point "integrated powerful
scripting language", and integrate the following bullet point about
command loop structures; also, add keywords such as "matrix and algebra
programming"
* The point "Links to... <other languages>" is quite vague I think and
even somehow sounds as if gretl necessarily is not enough to do "further
data analysis".
Also while the "foreign" feature is quite cool for insiders and
experienced users I'm not sure whether it is a selling point for people
that don't know gretl yet.
Good points. I have updated the top-level gretl webpage accordingly.
Those who maintain translations of the website please note. See
http://gretl.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gretl/gretl/doc/website/template/
where the relevant (English) file is index_pat.html.
Allin
9:07 a.m.
On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, Allin Cottrell wrote:
Good points. I have updated the top-level gretl webpage accordingly.
Those who maintain translations of the website please note. See
http://gretl.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gretl/gretl/doc/website/template/
where the relevant (English) file is index_pat.html.
I would like to propose a few additions/corrections:
* GARCH -> "wide variety of univariate GARCH-type models"
* should we also mention ordere logit and probit, multinomial logit etc?
* "Heckit" is a popular name, but a little frowned upon by some; I quite
like it as a house term, but on the webpage I would prefer "sample
selection model"
* Under panel-data estimators, also include probit, ivpanel; use the "GMM"
catchphrase
* Say something about robust/nonparametric stuff
* "Command loop structure" is obsolete. I'd rather have something more on
hansl instead. A link to the hansl primer wouldn't hurt, either.
* I'd probably add a few examples of what you can find among contributed
function packages. Actually, this could somehow be merged with the
"Contributing to Gretl" section.
And while we're on the topic, we really ought to have a forum. The wiki
experiment more or less died a peaceful death, but nowadays I guess that
people expect to be able to ask questions to "the community" through a
forum rather than mailing lists. Of course, looking after a forum website
is a hefty job (it's important to filter spamming etc), so I don't expect
anybody to volunteer in the next 5 minuts, but let's just say it'd be nice
if someone stepped up ;)
-------------------------------------------------------
Riccardo (Jack) Lucchetti
Dipartimento di Scienze Economiche e Sociali (DiSES)
Università Politecnica delle Marche
(formerly known as Università di Ancona)
r.lucchetti(a)univpm.it
http://www2.econ.univpm.it/servizi/hpp/lucchetti
-------------------------------------------------------
1:02 p.m.
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015, Riccardo (Jack) Lucchetti wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> Good points. I have updated the top-level gretl webpage accordingly.
> Those who maintain translations of the website please note. See
> http://gretl.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gretl/gretl/doc/website/template/
> where the relevant (English) file is index_pat.html.
I would like to propose a few additions/corrections:
* GARCH -> "wide variety of univariate GARCH-type models"
* should we also mention ordere logit and probit, multinomial logit etc?
* "Heckit" is a popular name, but a little frowned upon by some; I quite like
it as a house term, but on the webpage I would prefer "sample selection
model"
* Under panel-data estimators, also include probit, ivpanel; use the "GMM"
catchphrase
* Say something about robust/nonparametric stuff
* "Command loop structure" is obsolete. I'd rather have something more on
hansl instead. A link to the hansl primer wouldn't hurt, either.
* I'd probably add a few examples of what you can find among contributed
function packages. Actually, this could somehow be merged with the
"Contributing to Gretl" section.
More good points. I'll follow these suggestions, except that I won't
attempt to do much with the function packages section for now -- that
seems to me a bigger issue.
And while we're on the topic, we really ought to have a forum.
The wiki
experiment more or less died a peaceful death, but nowadays I guess that
people expect to be able to ask questions to "the community" through a forum
rather than mailing lists. Of course, looking after a forum website is a
hefty job (it's important to filter spamming etc), so I don't expect anybody
to volunteer in the next 5 minuts, but let's just say it'd be nice if someone
stepped up ;)
If we were going to do that, it would make sense to use some existing
machinery such as stackexchange. Any volunteers to find out what
exactly it would involve to set up a gretl "site" there?
Allin
2:01 p.m.
El 02/07/15 a las 15:02, Allin Cottrell escribió:
> And while we're on the topic, we really ought to have a forum. The
> wiki experiment more or less died a peaceful death, but nowadays I
> guess that people expect to be able to ask questions to "the
> community" through a forum rather than mailing lists. Of course,
> looking after a forum website is a hefty job (it's important to
> filter spamming etc), so I don't expect anybody to volunteer in the
> next 5 minuts, but let's just say it'd be nice if someone stepped up ;)
If we were going to do that, it would make sense to use some existing
machinery such as stackexchange. Any volunteers to find out what
exactly it would involve to set up a gretl "site" there?
Please, remember that sourceforge also offers forums for the projects.
They call it "Discussion":
"Discussion Overview
Discussion forums are a way to collaborate with other developers on the
project, or with end users. You can create as many different forums as
needed by clicking on "Create a Forum" on the left sidebar."
--
Ignacio Díaz-Emparanza
Departamento de Economía Aplicada III (Econometría y Estadística)
Universidad del País Vasco - Euskalherriko Unibertsitatea, UPV/EHU
Tfno: (+34) 94 601 3732
http://www.ehu.eus/ea3
2:08 p.m.
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015, Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza wrote:
El 02/07/15 a las 15:02, Allin Cottrell escribió:
>
>> And while we're on the topic, we really ought to have a forum. The wiki
>> experiment more or less died a peaceful death, but nowadays I guess that
>> people expect to be able to ask questions to "the community" through a
>> forum rather than mailing lists. Of course, looking after a forum website
>> is a hefty job (it's important to filter spamming etc), so I don't expect
>> anybody to volunteer in the next 5 minuts, but let's just say it'd be
nice
>> if someone stepped up ;)
>
> If we were going to do that, it would make sense to use some existing
> machinery such as stackexchange. Any volunteers to find out what exactly it
> would involve to set up a gretl "site" there?
>
Please, remember that sourceforge also offers forums for the projects. They
call it "Discussion":
"Discussion Overview
Discussion forums are a way to collaborate with other developers on the
project, or with end users. You can create as many different forums as needed
by clicking on "Create a Forum" on the left sidebar."
Interesting, I hadn't noticed that. Do you know of any (good) examples
that we could look at?
Allin
2:13 p.m.
El 02/07/15 a las 16:08, Allin Cottrell escribió:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015, Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza wrote:
> El 02/07/15 a las 15:02, Allin Cottrell escribió:
>>
>>> And while we're on the topic, we really ought to have a forum. The
>>> wiki experiment more or less died a peaceful death, but nowadays I
>>> guess that people expect to be able to ask questions to "the
>>> community" through a forum rather than mailing lists. Of course,
>>> looking after a forum website is a hefty job (it's important to
>>> filter spamming etc), so I don't expect anybody to volunteer in the
>>> next 5 minuts, but let's just say it'd be nice if someone stepped
>>> up ;)
>>
>> If we were going to do that, it would make sense to use some
>> existing machinery such as stackexchange. Any volunteers to find out
>> what exactly it would involve to set up a gretl "site" there?
>>
>
> Please, remember that sourceforge also offers forums for the
> projects. They call it "Discussion":
>
> "Discussion Overview
>
> Discussion forums are a way to collaborate with other developers on
> the project, or with end users. You can create as many different
> forums as needed by clicking on "Create a Forum" on the left
sidebar."
Interesting, I hadn't noticed that. Do you know of any (good) examples
that we could look at?
Allin
I did'nt remember to have used anyone but I was remembering this from
the time we was debating about the wiki (which sourceforge has as well).
But I see it is not difficulkt to find some of them working, for example
7zip has two forums in http://sourceforge.net/p/sevenzip/discussion/
--
Ignacio Díaz-Emparanza
Departamento de Economía Aplicada III (Econometría y Estadística)
Universidad del País Vasco - Euskalherriko Unibertsitatea, UPV/EHU
Tfno: (+34) 94 601 3732
http://www.ehu.eus/ea3
2:43 p.m.
El 02/07/15 a las 16:13, Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza escribió:
>>> If we were going to do that, it would make sense to use
some
>>> existing machinery such as stackexchange. Any volunteers to find
>>> out what exactly it would involve to set up a gretl "site" there?
>>>
>>
>> Please, remember that sourceforge also offers forums for the
>> projects. They call it "Discussion":
>>
>> "Discussion Overview
>>
>> Discussion forums are a way to collaborate with other developers on
>> the project, or with end users. You can create as many different
>> forums as needed by clicking on "Create a Forum" on the left
sidebar."
>
> Interesting, I hadn't noticed that. Do you know of any (good)
> examples that we could look at?
>
> Allin
>
I did'nt remember to have used anyone but I was remembering this from
the time we was debating about the wiki (which sourceforge has as
well). But I see it is not difficulkt to find some of them working,
for example 7zip has two forums in
http://sourceforge.net/p/sevenzip/discussion/
This said, I should say I like stackexchange. It seems more modern, and
complete, I remember have used it to resolve LateX dudes. But I am not
sure whether it is the thing we need. They say
"This site is all about *getting answers*. It's not a discussion forum.
There's no chit-chat." (See http://stackexchange.com/tour )
--
Ignacio Díaz-Emparanza
Departamento de Economía Aplicada III (Econometría y Estadística)
Universidad del País Vasco - Euskalherriko Unibertsitatea, UPV/EHU
Tfno: (+34) 94 601 3732
http://www.ehu.eus/ea3
2:49 p.m.
Am 02.07.2015 um 16:43 schrieb Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza:
This said, I should say I like stackexchange. It seems more modern, and
I would have no personal problem opening a forum on sourceforge, but
indeed somehow it doesn't seem to be the platform of choice these days.
Everybody is on github or whatever (though I'm not sure why really).
complete, I remember have used it to resolve LateX dudes. But I am
not
sure whether it is the thing we need. They say
"This site is all about *getting answers*. It's not a discussion forum.
There's no chit-chat." (See http://stackexchange.com/tour )
Well I think we should definitely keep the devel list. For discussion of
whether or not something is a bug or a valid feature request in
principle we have the two trackers on sourceforge. So for what's left
for the users I'd say that "getting answers" is a good description.
cheers,
sven
2:54 p.m.
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015, Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza wrote:
El 02/07/15 a las 16:13, Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza escribió:
>>>> If we were going to do that, it would make sense to use some existing
>>>> machinery such as stackexchange. Any volunteers to find out what exactly
>>>> it would involve to set up a gretl "site" there?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Please, remember that sourceforge also offers forums for the projects.
>>> They call it "Discussion":
>>>
>>> "Discussion Overview
>>>
>>> Discussion forums are a way to collaborate with other developers on the
>>> project, or with end users. You can create as many different forums as
>>> needed by clicking on "Create a Forum" on the left sidebar."
>>
>> Interesting, I hadn't noticed that. Do you know of any (good) examples
>> that we could look at?
>>
>> Allin
>>
>
> I did'nt remember to have used anyone but I was remembering this from the
> time we was debating about the wiki (which sourceforge has as well). But I
> see it is not difficulkt to find some of them working, for example 7zip has
> two forums in http://sourceforge.net/p/sevenzip/discussion/
This said, I should say I like stackexchange. It seems more modern, and
complete, I remember have used it to resolve LateX dudes. But I am not sure
whether it is the thing we need. They say
"This site is all about *getting answers*. It's not a discussion forum.
There's no chit-chat." (See http://stackexchange.com/tour )
Thanks. I think I like the stackexchange format better. As for
chit-chat, I think that's better conducted via the mailing lists.
Allin
11:16 p.m.
Hi,
This is just to inform that I have updated the Portuguese template.
Keep on doing a great job!
Bye.
11:21 a.m.
Dear sirs,
Sorry for taking so long to update the Russian translation. I have
incorporated all the changes using the CVS diff, and fixed some minor
mistakes, and added the name of the translator at the bottom (so that they
knew at whom to throw eggs).
Please find the updated html page attached.
--
Bien cordialement, | Yours sincerely,
Andreï V. Kostyrka.
http://kostyrka.ru, http://kostyrka.ru/blog
2015-07-06 1:16 GMT+02:00 Hélio Guilherme <helioxentric(a)gmail.com>:
Hi,
This is just to inform that I have updated the Portuguese template.
Keep on doing a great job!
Bye.
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7:29 p.m.
On Sat, 1 Aug 2015, Andreï V. Kostyrka wrote:
Dear sirs,
Sorry for taking so long to update the Russian translation. I have
incorporated all the changes using the CVS diff, and fixed some minor
mistakes, and added the name of the translator at the bottom (so that they
knew at whom to throw eggs).
Please find the updated html page attached.
Thanks, Andreï, your revised page should get onto the website soon.
Allin
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