12:09 p.m.
Hi,
in short: --cluster=period works as announced, but with two-way
clustering --cluster=period,unit doesn't work, one has to create a
series mimicking the period (e.g., genr time).
I guess this is an oversight and not intended.
Also, Allin, off-list you said that "set panel_robust driscoll_kraay"
now is a further option, but with yesterdays's snapshot I'm getting an
invalid value error. Is this in a different branch or not pushed or
something?
thanks
sven
12:51 p.m.
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Sven Schreiber wrote:
in short: --cluster=period works as announced, but with two-way
clustering
--cluster=period,unit doesn't work, one has to create a series mimicking the
period (e.g., genr time).
I guess this is an oversight and not intended.
It's not intended as such, but neither is it just an oversight. It's
not easy to combine an automatic structural feature with an explicit
series, given that many panels are unbalanced. But maybe we can find
a way of doing it.
Also, Allin, off-list you said that "set panel_robust
driscoll_kraay" now is a further option, but with yesterdays's
snapshot I'm getting an invalid value error. Is this in a
different branch or not pushed or something?
See the "set" doc for the current status: options are "arellano",
"pcse" and "scc".
Allin
1:03 p.m.
Am 02.11.2023 um 13:51 schrieb Allin Cottrell:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Sven Schreiber wrote:
> in short: --cluster=period works as announced, but with two-way
> clustering --cluster=period,unit doesn't work, one has to create a
> series mimicking the period (e.g., genr time).
>
> I guess this is an oversight and not intended.
It's not intended as such, but neither is it just an oversight. It's
not easy to combine an automatic structural feature with an explicit
series, given that many panels are unbalanced. But maybe we can find a
way of doing it.
OK, if it's not an oversight, I would just document it and
leave it as is.
> Also, Allin, off-list you said that "set panel_robust driscoll_kraay"
> now is a further option, but with yesterdays's snapshot I'm getting
> an invalid value error. Is this in a different branch or not pushed
> or something?
See the "set" doc for the current status: options are "arellano",
"pcse" and "scc".
Exactly - but my question is what happened to the driscoll_kraay thing
you mentioned a couple of weeks ago? Did it not work out, was just
experimental, or something else?
thanks
sven
1:23 p.m.
On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 9:03 AM Sven Schreiber
<sven.schreiber(a)fu-berlin.de> wrote:
Am 02.11.2023 um 13:51 schrieb Allin Cottrell:
> On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Sven Schreiber wrote:
>
>> in short: --cluster=period works as announced, but with two-way
>> clustering --cluster=period,unit doesn't work, one has to create a
>> series mimicking the period (e.g., genr time).
>>
>> I guess this is an oversight and not intended.
>
> It's not intended as such, but neither is it just an oversight. It's
> not easy to combine an automatic structural feature with an explicit
> series, given that many panels are unbalanced. But maybe we can find a
> way of doing it.
OK, if it's not an oversight, I would just document it and leave it as is.
>
>> Also, Allin, off-list you said that "set panel_robust driscoll_kraay"
>> now is a further option, but with yesterdays's snapshot I'm getting
>> an invalid value error. Is this in a different branch or not pushed
>> or something?
>
> See the "set" doc for the current status: options are
"arellano",
> "pcse" and "scc".
Exactly - but my question is what happened to the driscoll_kraay thing
you mentioned a couple of weeks ago? Did it not work out, was just
experimental, or something else?
Driscoll-Kraay is "scc" (spatial correlation consistent).
"discoll_kraay" seemed too fiddly to type. It's all documented in the
Guide.
Allin
1:26 p.m.
Am 02.11.2023 um 14:23 schrieb Cottrell, Allin:
On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 9:03 AM Sven Schreiber
<sven.schreiber(a)fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Am 02.11.2023 um 13:51 schrieb Allin Cottrell:
>> See the "set" doc for the current status: options are
"arellano",
>> "pcse" and "scc".
> Exactly - but my question is what happened to the driscoll_kraay thing
> you mentioned a couple of weeks ago? Did it not work out, was just
> experimental, or something else?
Driscoll-Kraay is "scc" (spatial correlation consistent).
"discoll_kraay" seemed too fiddly to type. It's all documented in the
Guide.
Ahhh OK, now I understand.
thanks
s
2:23 p.m.
On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 9:38 AM Sven Schreiber
<sven.schreiber(a)fu-berlin.de> wrote:
Am 02.11.2023 um 14:26 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
Ahhh OK, now I understand.
Sorry, one more stupid question: The new cluster option is not accessible in the GUI,
right?
Right, not yet. SCC is accessible though.
Allin
4:37 p.m.
New subject: X13 and Tramo-Seats running problems
Dear all,
I am writing to report that my students are having considerable
difficulty running X13 and tramo-seats for gretl with Windows11.
In particular, several of them are reporting the attached error codes.
No problem with Apple OS.
Thank you very much for your help
Francesca
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prof. Francesca Di Iorio
Dipartimento di Scienze Politiche
Universita' di Napoli Federico II
via L. Rodino' 22
I-80138 Napoli
tel. +39 0812538280
fax.+39 0812537466
e-mail fdiiorio(a)unina.it, francesca.diiorio(a)unina.it
4:47 p.m.
New subject: X13 and Tramo-Seats running problems
Am 08.11.2023 um 17:37 schrieb francesca di iorio:
Dear all,
I am writing to report that my students are having considerable
difficulty running X13 and tramo-seats for gretl with Windows11.
In particular, several of them are reporting the attached error codes.
In principle the error messages about non-found DLLs would sound like
being related to antivirus software blocking the access, but I guess
that your students are not running paranoid versions of such software,
in contrast to what's often being done on corporate systems?
But someone can surely check whether there's a general problem on
Windows 11. (I can do that later, on a different machine.)
thanks
sven
9:03 p.m.
New subject: X13 and Tramo-Seats running problems
Am 08.11.2023 um 17:47 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
Am 08.11.2023 um 17:37 schrieb francesca di iorio:
> I am writing to report that my students are having considerable
> difficulty running X13 and tramo-seats for gretl with Windows11.
> In particular, several of them are reporting the attached error codes.
In principle the error messages about non-found DLLs would sound like
being related to antivirus software blocking the access, but I guess
that your students are not running paranoid versions of such software,
in contrast to what's often being done on corporate systems?
But someone can surely check whether there's a general problem on
Windows 11. (I can do that later, on a different machine.)
I'm seeing no such problem with a freshly installed X13as on Windows 11
in conjunction with gretl. If you tell me more details (which program
version exactly, what specification is being executed, etc. etc.) I can
try those as well.
cheers
sven
11:49 p.m.
New subject: X13 and Tramo-Seats running problems
Thanks for the report, Francesca. I tested on Windows 11 today, and
both x13as and tramo/seats were working OK for me. However, I see
something that could be a problem. The DLLs required by those extra
programs (namely, libgfortran-5.dll and libgcc_s_seh-1.dll) are
supplied in the gretl installation directory, typically C:\Program
Files\gretl. But the extra programs install into their own parallel
subdirectories under Program Files, and I guess it's not guaranteed
that they'll find the DLLs they need.
I think the DLLs will be found if the gretl installation directory is
in the Windows PATH. When you run the gretl installer there's a
check-box option to add the gretl directory to PATH (not selected by
default). It might be worth reinstalling gretl with that option
selected. Alternatively, one could add the gretl directory to PATH
manually, as explained at
https://www.architectryan.com/2018/03/17/add-to-the-path-on-windows-10/
But I'll look into this further and see if there's a reliable way of
ensuring that the DLLS are found.
Allin
On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 11:37 AM francesca di iorio <fdiiorio(a)unina.it> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I am writing to report that my students are having considerable
> difficulty running X13 and tramo-seats for gretl with Windows11.
> In particular, several of them are reporting the attached error codes.
> No problem with Apple OS.
>
> Thank you very much for your help
> Francesca
10:19 a.m.
New subject: X13 and Tramo-Seats running problems
Thank you very much.
The PATH selection solved the problem.
everything works now.
Thank you again
francesca
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************************************************************
prof. Francesca Di Iorio
Dipartimento di Scienze Politiche
Universita' di Napoli Federico II
via L. Rodino' 22
I-80138 Napoli
tel. +39 0812538280
fax.+39 0812537466
e-mail fdiiorio(a)unina.it, francesca.diiorio(a)unina.it
Il 2023-11-09 00:49 Cottrell, Allin ha scritto:
> Thanks for the report, Francesca. I tested on Windows 11 today, and
> both x13as and tramo/seats were working OK for me. However, I see
> something that could be a problem. The DLLs required by those extra
> programs (namely, libgfortran-5.dll and libgcc_s_seh-1.dll) are
> supplied in the gretl installation directory, typically C:\Program
> Files\gretl. But the extra programs install into their own parallel
> subdirectories under Program Files, and I guess it's not guaranteed
> that they'll find the DLLs they need.
>
> I think the DLLs will be found if the gretl installation directory is
> in the Windows PATH. When you run the gretl installer there's a
> check-box option to add the gretl directory to PATH (not selected by
> default). It might be worth reinstalling gretl with that option
> selected. Alternatively, one could add the gretl directory to PATH
> manually, as explained at
>
> https://www.architectryan.com/2018/03/17/add-to-the-path-on-windows-10/
>
> But I'll look into this further and see if there's a reliable way of
> ensuring that the DLLS are found.
>
> Allin
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 11:37 AM francesca di iorio <fdiiorio(a)unina.it>
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am writing to report that my students are having considerable
>> difficulty running X13 and tramo-seats for gretl with Windows11.
>> In particular, several of them are reporting the attached error codes.
>> No problem with Apple OS.
>>
>> Thank you very much for your help
>> Francesca
9:11 a.m.
New subject: X13 and Tramo-Seats running problems
On 09/11/2023 11:19, francesca di iorio wrote:
Thank you very much.
The PATH selection solved the problem.
everything works now.
Thank you again
I just tried installing a copy of 2023b on a windows machine, and I
noticed that (contrary to what my understanding was) the tickbox for
adding the gretl dir to the PATH was on by default.
We have discussed this problem yesterday at a developer meeting, and
Allin gave very good reasons why in a standard installation the default
should be "off": basically, we don't want other programs to be disturbed
by different versions of the same DLL that come with gretl.
It is possible that this setting is memorised somewhere in the windows
registry (or whatever it's called), because the PC I used already had a
previous version of gretl installed, for which the path setting could
have been originally set to "on".
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Dipartimento di Scienze Economiche e Sociali (DiSES)
Università Politecnica delle Marche
(formerly known as Università di Ancona)
r.lucchetti(a)univpm.it
http://www2.econ.univpm.it/servizi/hpp/lucchetti
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